180 | Building a Sustainable Business and Location-Independent Lifestyle with Molly Ho
Have you ever wanted to travel around the world while working on your business but are not sure if this is even possible or how you could go about it?
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Our guest, Molly Ho (marketing strategist and co-founder of Digital CEO HQ) is passionate about helping people build a sustainable business and a location-independent lifestyle!
In this episode, Molly talks about how she built a very successful brand with digital products, templates and membership but then experienced burnout which led to her pivot and also pursuing her passion of becoming a digital nomad.
This episode is encouraging for anyone going through a transition or maybe someone who wants to build a business with flexibility and one that fulfills them and doesn’t burn them out. It is such a refreshing conversation and a great reminder that you have to create your own version of success and not adopt a person of success that doesn’t fulfill you or make you happy.
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KEY TAKEAWAYS
Building a Sustainable Business:
Shifted Focus:
Molly transitioned her focus towards assisting others in creating sustainable businesses. This shift signifies a move away from simply pursuing profits and towards considering the long-term viability of a business.
Long-Term Sustainability:
She learned the vital lesson of not solely chasing profits but also prioritizing the aspects that ensure a business's longevity and sustainability.
Mindset Shift:
From Comparison to Vision:
Molly underwent a transformative mindset shift, moving from constant comparison with others to concentrating on her unique long-term vision. This shift implies a newfound sense of purpose and individuality.
Inner Peace:
By shifting her mindset, Molly found inner peace in her life. This allowed her to reduce the urge to engage in relentless competition and comparison, fostering a healthier mental state.
Social Media and Content Creation:
Detox from Social Media:
Molly took a break from social media, recognizing the need to reduce exposure to business-related content that might be overwhelming or distracting.
Audience-Centric Content:
She now approaches content creation with a clear target audience in mind, ensuring her content is tailored to their needs rather than being dictated solely by trends or external pressures.
Mind Mapping and Content Planning:
Creative Content Organization:
Molly employs mind mapping techniques to brainstorm and effectively organize her content ideas. Her preference for initially drafting content on paper before transferring it digitally highlights her creative approach to organization.
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transcript
[00:00:00] Danielle Wiebe: Hi, Molly. Welcome to the podcast. I'm so excited to have you here today.
[00:00:06] Molly Ho: Hi, Danielle. Thanks for having
[00:00:07] Danielle Wiebe: Can you share a little bit more about you, about your background? How did you get into entrepreneurship?
[00:00:14] Molly Ho: Yeah, back in 2016, I decided to leave my last job and I thought that starting an online business was the best option for me.
[00:00:24] Molly Ho: I didn't know how to run an online business. I didn't know any business owners, but I was like, okay, if I spent the next five years building this, something must come out of it. So the first two years I really struggled with my business, but. I remember watching these YouTube videos online of like, how to become a digital nomad.
[00:00:42] Molly Ho: Are people living in Thailand? I was like, That looks pretty cool. I wanna do that. And two years later, after getting into the whole online space, I was like, okay, something just needs to like change. I don't really know what, but I have to do something. And that's when I got into digital products. [00:01:00] And turned out it worked really well for me.
[00:01:01] Molly Ho: I know that most people start out in services and then they like transitioned to, programs, courses, digital products. But I feel like I went the opposite way. And I think since then it's been kind of adventure. I did digital products and then I went on to courses and then did one-on-one.
[00:01:16] Molly Ho: So I've done kind of everything in the online marketing space.
[00:01:21] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah, that's amazing. So I think when I originally found you you were doing your di mostly your digital products and then you started doing services and I remember seeing like all of your educational content on social media. And and then recently I went to your page and I was like, oh, this is so cool.
[00:01:38] Danielle Wiebe: She is like talking about travel and she, it seems like her content has switched so much. So I wanted to connect with you. And I was like, I'm so curious. What are you up to these days? Cause I know you're traveling, you're doing somewhat of a pivot in your business. C so can you tell me a little bit more about that?
[00:01:56] Danielle Wiebe: Like what has that looked like transitioning into [00:02:00] doing other things and
[00:02:01] Molly Ho: what's next for you? Yeah, so last year around I think August or September I thought about doing services because one of my service provider friends was, I was actually thinking about maybe getting a job, and everyone was like, are you sure?
[00:02:17] Molly Ho: And I was like, am I sure? And one of my friends said, you already have this email list of people who are business owners. Why don't you just try seeing if anyone needs help? And so I did that and I actually got. Clients pretty quickly. I wasn't expecting that, but then I realized that maybe client work wasn't for me after all.
[00:02:37] Molly Ho: And so a couple of months ago, I decided that I would take it's not only a sabbatical, but it's, it was more of a, okay, let's just take time to figure out what is I want to do next. And I'm currently in Malaysia and one day Someone who was following me on Instagram messaged me, and I knew her before, but like we had never really talked.
[00:02:59] Molly Ho: And so [00:03:00] we ended up meeting up and I think like over the course of a few meetups we were talking about online business, and she's a marketer too, and. And then as I was like, what do you think about us teaming up? Because it wasn't that I didn't enjoy client work, I think I just didn't enjoy certain aspects of client work, but hearing her talk about her client work, I was like, oh, she's actually really good at
[00:03:24] Molly Ho: the parts that where I wasn't like excelling or I wasn't enjoying as much. And so we recently decided that we would team up and try to do something together. That is so
[00:03:34] Danielle Wiebe: exciting. I love that. Congratulations. So tell me a little bit about what your journey has been like as far as, cuz you built up like a very successful digital business, right?
[00:03:47] Danielle Wiebe: And what does that look like today? Are you still running those things? Have you shut those things down? I'm so curious in transitioning into this sort of new This new season, of your life and business, what does that look like on the [00:04:00] backend of your business?
[00:04:02] Molly Ho: Yeah, so now I'm really focused on building a sustainable business or helping others build sustainable business because I feel like before that wasn't so much my main focus.
[00:04:13] Molly Ho: Yes, I thought I was building ace, sustainable BU business, but it turns out. I wasn't, and you know how people always say oh, don't chase the money. But looking back and even during the process, I knew I was still doing that. And so I think like a lot of business owners I've seen throughout maybe the past two years, I've burned out as well.
[00:04:35] Molly Ho: And so I think nowadays I really want to help others, not. Go through that burnout process because it took me a long time to recover from that.
[00:04:44] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah. So tell me a little bit about that. When you say you thought you were building a sustainable business, but you actually weren't. Can you expand on that?
[00:04:52] Molly Ho: Yeah. So my membership, I had a zero product membership, and my plan was I couldn't really want to build this [00:05:00] and I'm going to give myself a lot of time to build it. But then I realized that I promised too much in my membership, and so that wasn't really sustainable and I kept trying to, it felt like I was trying to fix a broken ship.
[00:05:16] Molly Ho: I ended up taking a break, I think summer of 2020 or 2021, and I didn't realize how burnt out it was because that turned into kind of a year break.
[00:05:30] Danielle Wiebe: Wow. Okay. Yeah. So tell me about that break. Like what, so you started just realizing that you were feeling burnt out and then did you close down your membership or how did that all work?
[00:05:44] Molly Ho: So there were also like life things that happened that combined with business as well. And so that kind of impacted my business a lot. And yeah, first I closed down the membership and I was like, okay, I'll go back to selling digital products [00:06:00] like I was before. But the industry was also changing a lot.
[00:06:04] Molly Ho: And I think before I, I always kept up with the industry, but because I was like, For an all on business, for an all on life. I couldn't bounce back as quickly as I had maybe when I was younger.
[00:06:16] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah. So then now, like in this new sort of season, so you're traveling all over, you're creating some content for social media.
[00:06:24] Danielle Wiebe: You took a break from social media. Now you're back on. So what is your new. Vision, what do you want to create with your business? In what ways do you want it to be different than it was before?
[00:06:36] Molly Ho: Yeah. I think before I would always look online and see other people's businesses and think, oh, I want that.
[00:06:43] Molly Ho: Or, I should be doing what they're doing. But I feel like, because I. Done a lot of those things or I've been in a lot of those circles. I know that's not what I want. And I've also done a lot of like inner work and healing work and just like focusing on myself. [00:07:00] And I was not very patient in my early twenties and I'm still like not very patient now, but I'm much more patient than I was back then.
[00:07:08] Molly Ho: And I think before. I didn't see the long-term vision of what I wanted my life to be like. And nowadays I'm like, okay, what would I want my life to look like in 10 years, in 20 years? What I want to build long-term and what can I build today that supports that vision, in the future?
[00:07:30] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah. So building systems and processes and things that you can actually count on, income every month instead of just being like, oh, let's do this, like big launch and maybe make a lot of money. But then, like you said, maybe it's not sustainable long term. Yeah.
[00:07:48] Molly Ho: I think something else that I've been laying into recently that happened accidentally, but also.
[00:07:55] Molly Ho: Around the same time as collaborating with other people. So I've been [00:08:00] thinking about wanting to do a retreat for a long time, but it just felt like this big dream. I didn't know how to put it together. And one of my friends, I, we have a weekly call and when they just like, what do you think about a retreat?
[00:08:11] Molly Ho: And I told her, I was like, I've been thinking about retreat for the longest time. And us planning it just felt so like in sync. It made so much sense. And in the recent like friend who is also in marketing, us working together also just flows together. And I think that was one of the things I struggled with in the past where it wasn't flowing as easily.
[00:08:35] Danielle Wiebe: And what do you think that change? Like, because I love collaborations. We talk about collaborations so much on this podcast. What do you think that change was? Which do you think it's something like you feel more open to collaborating with other people? Or do you think it's the people that you met?
[00:08:51] Danielle Wiebe: Are you in a different stage of your life? I would love to hear your thoughts on that because I think a lot of people wanna collaborate, but they don't really know where to start. Or they're [00:09:00] like, it's super awkward to reach out to people. What is this gonna look like? So I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
[00:09:05] Molly Ho: I am a big believer in just like letting go. It's not something I talk a lot about, but it's something that has reoccurred a lot in my life, and I've noticed that every time I've let go of how I think things should be. Things just happen. Or there's an outcome that I want, and once I let go of, okay, I have to do these things to get to that outcome this way, then another possibility happens and I'm like, oh, this could happen.
[00:09:37] Molly Ho: Or one possibility happens and then my mind's oh, there are these other things I could do, but when I'm so focused on, I have to get, do things this way. And this is the way that things have to be get done. I don't see the other possibilities. And I feel like before I wanted to control things or how things go a certain way so I wasn't open to those po other [00:10:00] possibilities.
[00:10:00] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah, I think it's like I what I'm gathering from what you're saying is like having that like abundance mentality of. Working together to achieve a certain result. Whereas sometimes, like as entrepreneurs, we're just, we're doing things so much on our own and we have this okay, this is how I'm gonna do it, or I'm going to try to do it all, all by myself.
[00:10:20] Danielle Wiebe: And I don't know. I've always found especially just like you were saying, for me, it's so much harder to achieve things if you're just doing it on your own or if you're just trying to do it and not connect with anyone else, not collaborate with anyone else, like it's gonna take you one so much longer to achieve that goal.
[00:10:39] Danielle Wiebe: And then two, it's gonna be so much more difficult cuz like you said, I think it's so beautiful that you found someone to collaborate with, to start your. Marketing agency and then also with the retreat. It's cuz you both have different skill sets and different perspectives. So like coming together to plan those things is just gonna be [00:11:00] so much more successful because you're leaning on each other.
[00:11:03] Danielle Wiebe: For things like, oh, I'm not really good at this, but you're good at this, so why don't you handle this aspect and then I'll do this part. And it's also, I don't know it's so much more fun too, when you can work as a team on things rather than just working on your own. And it's, I don't know if you found this, but I find a lot of the things that we do on our business is because, Like I find business really lonely if you're doing it on your own and like you get so caught up in your own head about things and if you don't have anyone to bounce it, ideas off of it gets, it's it's not like a healthy atmosphere cuz you go down like a spiral.
[00:11:39] Molly Ho: Exactly. And I think that's where I was struggling in the past because. It's like you're in your own brain, right? So then your ideas keep going in a circle because you're talking to yourself, but you're having the same conversation over and over again. Whereas I noticed the reason why I decided to do the retreat with my friend is because I've [00:12:00] gone to know her over like the course of a year.
[00:12:02] Molly Ho: We've been doing our weekly co-working sessions for over a year. So then she knows how, I think, I know how. She thinks, and we know like how we bounce ideas or if we're struggling with something, we can help one another through it. And I just really enjoy being in our company. So Dan's okay, if I like all these calls, then I'm going to like hosting a retreat with her.
[00:12:24] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah. That's so good. I think that's, I think that is important. Like it's an important aspect to it as well because you do need to build like that relationship before you do something big like a retreat, with someone. Obviously you're not just going to meet someone for the first time and Hey, let's do a retreat together, like not knowing each other at all.
[00:12:43] Danielle Wiebe: So what would be your tips on that, like when it comes to working with other people, when it comes to collaborating? What are some things that you think are important? To do before you dive into that relationship. I think
[00:12:58] Molly Ho: communicating and [00:13:00] being open to each other about maybe what your weaknesses are, along with your strengths how you work through things.
[00:13:07] Molly Ho: I like sharing my personality type with someone else to see. Okay. Would it work together? I think also just giving something time, the relationship time to build trust and stuff. I think that's something that I didn't do as much in other earlier business situations where maybe I should have.
[00:13:28] Molly Ho: Also sleeping on things like you don't have to be aside right at the moment. Yeah, that's a big one that I learned.
[00:13:33] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah, totally. Totally. And I think sometimes we think that things need to be, do, done a certain way, like you said. And we see things that we see other people doing.
[00:13:44] Danielle Wiebe: I would love to hear your perspective on that, like how has your mindset changed around business? Because I think it's so easy, especially with. So much of what we do in our businesses online now. We can. Maybe we have this idea of what [00:14:00] we wanna do for our business, or oh, we wanna structure it this way, or this is the foundation that I wanna build to build, a sustainability long term.
[00:14:07] Danielle Wiebe: But then we see other people. Doing maybe what we're doing, but in a totally different way. And then we get like sidetracked. We're like, oh, I guess I'm supposed to do it the way that they're doing it. So how do you feel like your mindset has changed around that? When it comes to comparison or when it comes to really listening to yourself and how you wanna structure things instead of getting distracted with what everyone
[00:14:32] Molly Ho: else is doing.
[00:14:34] Molly Ho: So I have two answers. The first one is I've tried doing things enough, like other things, enough to know. Okay. Don't wanna do things that way. So I'm going to try things this way and give it enough time to really see if it works out for me. Also, I think with my human design, I do have to try different things, but it's finding it, [00:15:00] for me personally, it's finding a balance between okay, trying different things, but also giving things enough time to work out because things aren't going to work out overnight, despite.
[00:15:09] Molly Ho: What you hear online. Yeah. Cause I feel like a lot of people are rushing or switching, and I do this too because, one minute you're on TikTok and someone's saying this will work. And all you have to do is these three things. And then the next moment you're on Instagram and then someone else is telling you, no, don't do those three things.
[00:15:24] Molly Ho: Do these three things instead. And so by the end of the day, you have all of its information, but. You're confused. I'm like, what to actually do? Yeah. And so now I just pick one and I'm like, okay, we're gonna go with it and reevaluate maybe at the end of the month or in two weeks. And I just don't spend as much time on social media anymore.
[00:15:49] Molly Ho: Yeah. But then second thing, and this is the second thing, is I think is what really helped me. So through traveling, I realized that. Like [00:16:00] it doesn't really matter what other people are doing. Doesn't really have, okay, let me think about how I wanna say this. I think when I came to Malaysia, I found like a inner peace within myself and how I was living my life and it. No longer seemed, didn't matter as much or even at all how other people were living theirs. Like I was still happy for all of my friends or my colleagues who were doing things, but I didn't feel the need to compete anymore or like the need to compare anymore because, yeah, because I was like enjoying my life. And so it's oh, if I'm enjoying my life, isn't that kind of everyone's goal at the end of the day?
[00:16:44] Danielle Wiebe: It's totally true. Oh my gosh. I think too, as entrepreneurs, we get so caught up in like just. More, right? Like it doesn't matter what the more is, it's like more followers, more money, more[00:17:00] success, more accolades, more features, like all these things that we want more of.
[00:17:06] Danielle Wiebe: And I think, part of it is okay, yeah, the. Sometimes we do need more money like to live and to, like maybe we do have a goal where we're saving up for a house or we're saving up for, maybe our kids or whatever that is. And those are all, it's not bad to want those things.
[00:17:22] Danielle Wiebe: It's not bad to like work towards those things. But I think, like you're saying, if you're not this is definitely something that I have really been like working on, especially. Having two kids now and being like, okay, like I wanna enjoy my time, I wanna enjoy my life and I wanna be present in my life and enjoy it day to day, rather than just always being like, oh, I have this goal.
[00:17:49] Danielle Wiebe: Yes. And that goal is okay, but if I'm not actually happy and enjoying my life while I'm working towards that goal, then there's no point. In that goal either, right? Like it's [00:18:00] just like, why are we even doing this? You might as well just try to go get a job. Yeah, I really love that you said that.
[00:18:07] Danielle Wiebe: So what do you think when it comes to, cuz you said that you spend less time on social media. Tell me a little bit about that, cuz I know you're back on social media. You took a break. First of all, what was that break like? And then, cuz I know a lot of people are thinking like, should I be doing a digital detox if they're feeling overwhelmed?
[00:18:24] Danielle Wiebe: So I would love to hear your perspective on that. And then now that you're back, how do you feel like you're using social media differently than you
[00:18:32] Molly Ho: were before? Okay. I'm gonna be honest with my break. I still go on social media, but I stop following a lot of business owners, right? And I mostly just keep up with people who I meet on my travels or my friends back home.
[00:18:47] Molly Ho: And it feels really good to not constantly be thinking about business, but how I plan on using it, going back into [00:19:00] it.
[00:19:03] Molly Ho: I think I'm also going to not be following as many business owners as I was before and trust that I know what I'm doing because I do. Yeah. But also I think there's other avenues of marketing like emo marketing, podcast marketing, and so leaning into. Other platforms as well. And for me, I think that feels more sustainable and things that I enjoy.
[00:19:31] Molly Ho: Not saying that I don't enjoy social media, I think that it's wonderful, but it doesn't have to consume my whole life.
[00:19:38] Danielle Wiebe: So good. Yeah, I totally can relate. And I think like really it's figuring out like, what do you love to do or, and what. Is sustainable for you? Cuz I, I realized too a couple of years ago that I was spending so much time on social media and I was realizing, you know what?
[00:19:56] Danielle Wiebe: I really enjoy and love podcasting [00:20:00] and, sustainably, like you said, like email marketing is really where all of our. All of our clients are coming from and it's like the way that we're able to engage with people, so on a deeper level. And so it was realizing like, okay, why am I spending so much time on social media when these are the other, these are the platforms that are actually bringing in the results and also make me more They're more sustainable for me because I actually enjoy them.
[00:20:31] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah. So it's like figure, and some people love social media and that's awesome. And I do enjoy it, but I personally have to have a time limit on how much time I'm spending and I notice that when I'm spending a lot of time on it, I start to get a little bit anxious and I can feel that anxiety coming through.
[00:20:50] Danielle Wiebe: And so what I find works really well, and I'm curious for you like, I find if I think about an idea in my head first, and I like almost plan out [00:21:00] my content and a lot of our content anyways is repurposed from our podcast or from other places anyhow. But I find that if I think of a concept and then I go on social media to create it, instead of going on social media to almost.
[00:21:15] Danielle Wiebe: Get ideas of what to create for content. It works so much better than cuz it's actually coming from me and it's coming from, something that I'm inspired to put out into the world instead of just looking at what other people are doing.
[00:21:29] Molly Ho: Yeah. I feel like I. Okay. Content ideas are something that you've never really struggled with.
[00:21:36] Molly Ho: Yeah. So probably cuz you
[00:21:38] Danielle Wiebe: travel so much. I feel like travel also like breeds
[00:21:42] Molly Ho: creativity. Yeah. So I think that with that, I always think, okay, who is, who are we talking to and why are we talking to them? And what are the things that they need to. Make a choice because I think about myself [00:22:00] as the customer, and I'm like, okay, what do I need to know to feel confident in like buying something or investing with someone?
[00:22:08] Molly Ho: And so yeah, whenever I'm creating content for myself or other people, I'm like, okay, who are we talking to And what do you need? And I think that's just how the content starts to flow for me. Can I find that. My mapping, I do a lot of brain dumping and my mapping. So once I have one idea, I turn it into several different ideas.
[00:22:27] Molly Ho: And what I'll do is I'll brain dump all at once before, or sometimes if I get like an inspiration to, work out the idea, I'll work out the idea, but mostly like to do things in batches. And so I'll brainstorm all at once. I'll write it all out all at once, and then I'll design everything at once too.
[00:22:44] Danielle Wiebe: So cool. Okay. I wanna ask you a follow-up question on mind mapping, because I love brain dumping and mind mapping too. Do you use any tools? Do you do it on a piece of paper? Do you do it online? I'm so curious. I
[00:22:57] Molly Ho: am a paper person all the way. I've tried [00:23:00] using click up whiteboard, and it worked, but then I realized that.
[00:23:05] Molly Ho: It doesn't work as well as when I am writing it on paper. But if I'm writing a list, then I prefer to do it online.
[00:23:13] Danielle Wiebe: Okay. So when you do a brain dump, you get out like a blank p piece of paper and you just write down all of the ideas. And then how do you organize those ideas after you've put them down?
[00:23:25] Danielle Wiebe: When I do it.
[00:23:26] Molly Ho: So it depends on what kind of brain dump I'm doing. If I, it's our content, I will do it. On a doc or, yeah, just on a doc in click up and then, or no sharing whatever is, and then after that I'll start the Tabler spreadsheet and then I'll start organizing it and putting it together. So I'm like, okay, these ideas work together, or because I've already thought of one idea and the five next ideas go along with that, then it's already a group of ideas.
[00:23:57] Molly Ho: So
[00:23:57] Danielle Wiebe: cool. I love it. I love that process. [00:24:00] That's awesome. Okay, the second to last question I have for you is, what is something that you're excited about? What is something that you're looking forward to when it comes to your new direction that you're taking your life and your business?
[00:24:16] Molly Ho: What am I excited about? I think I'm mostly just excited for the adventure that, or like whatever it brings and not knowing exactly what will happen, but trusting that something did will happen. Whatever happens, I think that I'll learn something
[00:24:38] Danielle Wiebe: from it. Good. And what are you most proud of your entrepreneurial journey?
[00:24:50] Molly Ho: I think the pivots in my business and. Trying different things because I don't know how [00:25:00] anti-human design you are, but when I read my profiles oh, this really makes sense because I never really like sticking to one thing. I think if people look at, my business resume, they'll see, okay, I did this, I did that because I've done like Pinterest and Instagram and clubhouse and products, and I enjoyed all of them, but if I had to only do one, Of those things, I don't think that I would've done very long.
[00:25:27] Molly Ho: And so I used to think that, oh, I wasn't really like that committed to anything and I felt bad about it, but now I look back and I'm like, oh, I've done so many different things and I can see how all of these different things have helped me to where I am today and how they can help me with what I'm doing.
[00:25:49] Molly Ho: In the future.
[00:25:50] Danielle Wiebe: So good. My friend she actually, she did a Ted talk about this and she, have you heard of Mul being a multi potential light? [00:26:00] No, but I love that. Okay, so that sounds like
[00:26:03] Molly Ho: you said you started doing that term somewhere. Is it like a new thing that people were saying?
[00:26:09] Danielle Wiebe: Apparently the, it, the term was coined by someone else, and I can't remember the name right now.
[00:26:15] Danielle Wiebe: I'll put it in the show notes if I think about it. But yeah, my, one of my really good friends, and she's actually a part of our mastermind as well, she calls it being a multi. Potentially. And she did a TED Talk on it. I'll put that in the show notes for people too. But basically it's you are really passionate about more than one thing, and you're actually really good at more than one thing.
[00:26:35] Danielle Wiebe: And so there's some people who are like, they're, they've spent their whole life and they're really good at this one thing, and they just do this one thing and they do it forever. And then there's other people. Who like cross pollinate and they're like birds, right? They're like cross pollinating. And so they have all these different passions and all these different things that they love to do.
[00:26:55] Danielle Wiebe: And so that's what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like you are. And I know a lot of I [00:27:00] find. I feel like I'm like that too. And a lot, I think a lot of people in our community are like that as well as they have multiple different passions. So it's overwhelming sometimes to know, okay, what do I wanna pursue in this moment?
[00:27:13] Danielle Wiebe: Or how do I wanna do this? And I think it, it's helpful to give per people permission and also examples like you're giving of you can do multiple things and they all support one another and support where you wanna go. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love that and I love that you are in this new season.
[00:27:30] Danielle Wiebe: It sounds like you have really exciting things coming with your retreat and your business and also your podcast. So can you tell people where they can find you, where they can connect with you, all the things?
[00:27:42] Molly Ho: Yes. My Instagram is at Molly Hill Studio, and if you type that into the Google search bar, all of my things will show up.
[00:27:49] Molly Ho: But my podcast is called, it's All Connected.
[00:27:53] Danielle Wiebe: I love it. So good. And what can they expect to hear on your podcast?
[00:27:58] Molly Ho: It's a [00:28:00] podcast about how I feel like everything in our life is connected, our business, friendship, lifestyle, travel, so it's a lot of content on personal growth, business, marketing, traveling stories, et cetera.
[00:28:16] Molly Ho: So
[00:28:17] Danielle Wiebe: cool. I love that. Amazing. Thank you so much, Molly, for joining us and Molly's gonna be joining us for our passion to profit challenge. So we're going to be interviewing her for that as well. So stay tuned for that. And definitely follow Molly on all of those places. Connect with her on social media and to see all of her travels, and then also her podcast and all the other things for when you have those coming up.
[00:28:40] Danielle Wiebe: So thanks so much for being with us, Molly.
[00:28:43] Molly Ho: Having me.