98 - Your Six-Figure Personality Type. Are you a feeler, thinker or doer? With Marta Spirk of The Empowered Woman
Marta Spirk of The Empowered Woman spills all about how your personality type relates to your success as an entrepreneur!
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Danielle was so excited to have the amazing Marta Spirk! Marta share her story of entrepreneurship with many pivots along the way! We also dive into Understanding your Personality and how it relates to your success as an Entrepreneur.
Marta has a quiz called the six-figure personality type where she helps you understand if you are a Feeler, thinker and doer so if you are curious to which one you might be then tune in!
Connect with Marta Spirk:
Embracing a Non-Linear Path
Marta's entrepreneurial journey was marked by exploration and experimentation. She started with freelance work and language tutoring, later transitioning to interpreting and network marketing. Despite trying various avenues, Marta recognized the need for personal alignment and continued to seek her true calling.
Understanding Self and Motivations:
Marta emphasizes the significance of getting to know oneself deeply. Through her own introspection, she discovered the power of self-acceptance and compassion. Marta draws parallels between understanding oneself and building strong relationships with others, urging listeners to become their own best friends.
Overcoming Imposter Syndrome:
Marta addresses imposter syndrome and the feeling of inadequacy many entrepreneurs experience. She encourages individuals to give themselves grace and acknowledge their unique strengths. Marta's journey serves as a reminder that success doesn't always follow a linear path, and it's important to embrace personal growth along the way.
The Power of the Enneagram:
Marta shares her experience with using the Enneagram, a personality framework, as a valuable tool for self-analysis. By studying her own Enneagram type and motivations, Marta gained insights into her behavior and decision-making process. This self-awareness helped her navigate her entrepreneurial journey with more clarity and confidence.
Building Visibility and Finding a Niche:
Marta found her passion in supporting women entrepreneurs, but initially struggled with feeling inadequate due to not having a multimillion-dollar business. However, she discovered her unique value in helping women gain visibility and create authentic connections. Marta's expertise lies in coaching and marketing strategies, accompanied by a focus on mindset and income conversion.
Hone skills and increase self-awareness:
By recognizing our weaknesses, such as lacking attention to detail or struggling with being present, we can develop these skills and become more self-aware in how we show up in our personal and professional lives.
Appreciate different personality types:
Every personality type, whether it's the action-oriented "doer" or the compassionate "feeler," has its strengths and weaknesses. Understanding and valuing these differences is essential for effective teamwork and leadership.
Leverage strengths to avoid negative perceptions:
When we don't understand and utilize our strengths effectively, they can be misinterpreted by others. By becoming aware of our strengths and using them positively, we can avoid misunderstandings and build stronger connections.
Take the personality quiz:
Marta offers a quiz on her website, martaspirk.com, called "What's Your Six Figure Personality Type." The quiz helps individuals identify their personality type and provides insights into their unique traits, helping them operate more effectively and understand others better.
Embrace the journey, not just the destination:
Avoid the pressure of timelines and comparison to others' achievements. Instead, appreciate your own journey, focusing on personal growth and enjoying the present moment. Trust in your own calling and progress at your own pace.
Impact through authenticity:
Building a successful business requires embracing your unique qualities rather than trying to replicate others' success. By staying true to yourself, you can make a genuine impact and effectively serve your clients or customers.
Balancing motherhood and business:
Marta shares her experience as a mother of triplets and a business owner. Balancing these roles can be challenging but offers valuable lessons in time management, prioritization, and appreciating the present moment.
Understanding personality types and leveraging strengths can positively impact personal and business growth. By honing skills, appreciating differences, and embracing authenticity, individuals can create a meaningful impact in their businesses and personal lives. Marta's insights provide a valuable perspective on the importance of self-awareness and understanding others. Take the personality quiz on martaspirk.com to discover your unique traits and enhance your journey towards success.
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TRANSCRIPT
[00:00:00] Danielle Wiebe: Welcome back to the Business Babes Collective podcast. I am so excited for today's episode. We have an amazing guest, Marta Burke, who is a wife, mom of triplets, TEDx, speaker, author, empowerment coach, marketing strategist, and she's the founder of The Empowered Women. She helps women simplify their marketing and business with personality based approach that reduces overwhelm and procrastination so they can step into visibility, credibility, and profit.
[00:00:29] I am so excited for you to hear from Marta. Today. We talk about Marta's story of entrepreneurship and the many pivots that she had along the way. We also dive into understanding your personality and how that relates to success as an entrepreneur. Marta has a quiz called the six Figure Personality type, where she helps you understand if you are a feeler, thinker, or doer.
[00:00:53] So if you are curious to which one you might be, then definitely tune into today's episode. A quick [00:01:00] reminder before we dive into the episode, we have our free organic growth workshop happening on September 28th at 12:00 PM pst, and in this workshop I'm gonna be sharing how you can get exposure for your business and grow organically through the power of collaborations and partnerships. So you can go to businessbabescollective.com/workshop to register, and I can't wait to see you there. All right, now let's go ahead and dive into our episode with Marta.
[00:01:29] Welcome to the Business Babes Collective podcast. I'm your host, Danielle Wiebe. In this podcast, you'll learn tangible business tips and strategies on how to grow successfully and sustainably. We'll also interview seasoned entrepreneurs so you can listen in on their stories and see behind the scenes of what it took to grow and scale their businesses. Let's dive in, as we discuss the wild, exciting, crazy challenging, rollercoaster ride of entrepreneurship.[00:02:00]
[00:02:00] Hi Marta. Welcome to the Business Babes Collective Podcast. I am so excited to have you here.
[00:02:05] Marta Spirk: Hi. I'm super excited to chat as well.
[00:02:08] Danielle Wiebe: Awesome. So for our listeners, can you just share a little bit more about your background? How did you become an entrepreneur and what has it been like running a business? And I know you are a mom of triplets, so tell us a little bit more about your journey of becoming an entrepreneur and what that has looked like for you.
[00:02:26] Marta Spirk: Yes. So I've had a long history and career of doing freelance work and being self-employed. It was kind of back and forth having a job, but also doing some stuff on the side, working with languages. So I'm from Brazil originally. I started teaching English when I was 14. So from a very young age I was already getting paid tutoring friends and from school or from church for English.
[00:02:50] And then eventually I started my bachelor's degree in translation. Started tutoring people for French as well, cuz that was part of the major. And then I got into interpreting as I was [00:03:00] interpreting large conferences for church. Met my husband in the meantime, who's American, moved to the US, got a master's in linguistics, and then the plot twist of triplets happened and it kind of sent me on this journey of what do I wanna do with my life?
[00:03:15] Cause for a while there I already knew I didn't wanna teach anymore. It just didn't seem as exciting to me. It's like almost, it's too easy on board. And the interpreting kind of got to that space as well. I got into court interpreting. I went through the whole process of getting certified, orientations tests, which I love cuz I'm such a geek like that. Let's study, you know, for the test. But still, it's like, I don't know if this is exactly it. And after having the kids, I stumbled upon the world of network marketing and the online space, and I was like, Huh, I can make money off my phone.
[00:03:51] You know, the, the promises that they make, while you're taking care of your babies. And so I, I got started with network marketing, but soon I realized it wasn't really a [00:04:00] model that I wanted. Because I'm so competitive, because I'm so driven, I feel like it was doing more harm than encouraging me because it was, it was like I could rise to the top, but on the same hand, it wasn't something that was mine.
[00:04:13] Danielle Wiebe: Right.
[00:04:13] Marta Spirk: You know? So it was kind of hard for me to reconcile the two. And that's when I had the brilliant idea of starting a podcast and veer off and finding really, what is it then that I wanna teach? What do I wanna talk about? And that was quite the journey, I gotta tell you, because I moved around or pivoted I don't know how many different times.
[00:04:32] I tried so many different things. They were all pretty related, like, oh, encouragement for moms. And then I started doing encouragement for immigrant expat brazilian women in America, which kind of turned into, I wanna learn English. And I was back to what I didn't wanna do.
[00:04:48] Danielle Wiebe: right.
[00:04:48] Marta Spirk: So it was, oh my gosh, so many different things until I finally was like, No, what I wanna do is work with women entrepreneurs. Cuz it was so interesting when I first started with network marketing and the whole idea of building a a team. [00:05:00] I loved being the mentor and being the leader, you know? And I was like, but I don't really have a whole lot to show for.
[00:05:07] I'm just cheerleading these women to grow, but it's not like I have a huge success story yet. So that kind of held me back as well, cuz I felt like I needed to have more substance to my own career. And I think that is what was stopping me from wanting to work with entrepreneurs. I don't have a multimillion dollar business. How can I mentor anyone?
[00:05:26] But then I started getting into visibility. I took a media program. I started doing segments on TV and getting some bigger names on my podcast, getting interviewed on other podcasts. I invested a lot of my time and money into getting these media opportunities. And I feel like that really emboldened me to then turn around and say, Hey, you wanna do what I just did?
[00:05:50] You know? But the difference with a lot of this is, and this is actually something that's transpired recently, lots of my friends mentors are like, Marto, you're getting into PR. That's [00:06:00] what you're helping women with. And it just never resonated with me. It's like, no, that's not really what I'm doing, but I don't know what I'm doing.
[00:06:06] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:06:06] Marta Spirk: And more and more it's been helping women with that visibility and with those opportunities, but giving the support that PR doesn't really give you that is the messaging and the conversion into actual income.
[00:06:18] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:06:19] Marta Spirk: So it is more business coaching and marketing, but with the mindset of, So it's very unique and it's very different, which is a little bit hard to put into words, I guess, but I'm loving it.
[00:06:30] Danielle Wiebe: That's amazing. Okay, so I love a few things that you said, and I wanted to take that out so that whoever's listening can really marinate on some of the words that you said. Because I think one of the things that I really appreciate about your story is that you didn't have this clear path of what you wanted to do. And I think often, especially when you know it's condensed and cleaned up, it's like people have these stories that are like zero to whatever, and it was just, it seems like even though we all know it's not
[00:06:58] Marta Spirk: mm-hmm.
[00:06:59] Danielle Wiebe: but it seems [00:07:00] like it was either easy for them or they had a clear path, or they knew exactly what they wanted to do. But I love that you shared, you know, you tried lots of different things and really figured out, okay, who do I actually wanna serve? And then, you know, you, you thought, I really love this business piece and I really love helping people with business. But then you had that kind of imposter syndrome of whom I to
[00:07:20] Marta Spirk: mm-hmm.
[00:07:20] Danielle Wiebe: to do this, right? And I think no matter where we are at in our journey, That is always gonna be something. We're always gonna feel like, who am I to share this? Who am I? Who am I to have a podcast? Who am I to?
[00:07:32] Marta Spirk: Yeah.
[00:07:33] Danielle Wiebe: I know you talk about speaking a lot as well, so like, who am I to speak on a stage?
[00:07:37] Marta Spirk: Yep.
[00:07:37] Danielle Wiebe: And so I would love for you to share for women who are feeling that way right now, maybe they are in a space where they've become an entrepreneur. A lot of people in my community, they say they kind of were accidental entrepreneurs.
[00:07:49] Marta Spirk: Yes.
[00:07:50] Danielle Wiebe: Like they're like, I just kind of accidentally became an entrepreneur and now I'm in this entrepreneurial space and I don't really know what to do. So what would your advice be for those people who just feel kind of like they need [00:08:00] to prove themselves? Before they can do something that they've always wanted to do?
[00:08:05] Marta Spirk: Yeah. Well, and I think that's where we get into the other side of my journey, which I know is one of the things you wanted to focus on for this interview, is the piece of focusing a lot on getting to know yourself and kind of having fun with the process, because we want it to be fast. But just like any relationship with a another person outside of yourself, you're not gonna get to know someone in two days.
[00:08:26] You're not gonna get to really know somebody in a year even. A year is so fast when you think about the grand scheme of things, right? I mean, think about this time last year. It wasn't that long ago. And when we think ahead, it seems so long ago, you know? And I think, part of my journey and part of my lesson and then what I'm here to help people with and teach is that I spent, I have spent this entire time wanting to understand myself.
[00:08:55] Why do I have this desire? Why is this something so important to [00:09:00] me? And in the beginning, a lot of it was blame focused. Like, why can't you just be like this other person that has it all figured. Knows their expertise, goes for it, you know?
[00:09:13] And then once I started looking into this to understand why I wasn't like the different, like the other people that I appeared more successful, I started giving myself some more grace and showing myself some more compassion to be like, This is who I am, this is what I have to work with, so why am I trying to work with something else that that is not there? Let's, let's love this person that is and understand, cuz isn't that what we wanna do with our spouses and with our kids?
[00:09:40] Right. I started understanding, and I think for the fact that I have triplets too, it has just, oh my gosh, overlapped so much and I always say everything is meant to be like there is no coincidences because when you think three people born the same exact time, pretty much like off by a few minutes to the same parents, [00:10:00] being raised, In the same environment, they couldn't be more different.
[00:10:04] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:10:04] Marta Spirk: You know, and, and this is just such a testament of our uniqueness. I couldn't, and sometimes I fall into the traps of being like, Why can't you just be more like your brother that, you know, listens, you know, and does things a certain, It's like they can't because they're different. So how can I learn a little bit more about how they operate so that I will learn what motivates them?
[00:10:27] And we are so quick to do this with our children cuz we love them. We would give our lives to them, you know, or even our spouses to make the relationship work. But how about doing that with yourself?
[00:10:37] Why are you thinking this? Why are you struggling with this? Why is this such a trigger for you? Become that best friend, and obviously it's helpful to be able to have somebody outside of yourself to vent and work it out, but I always say you're the person you spend the most time with. So.
[00:10:53] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah. Wow.
[00:10:54] Marta Spirk: What you are gonna do about it?
[00:10:56] Danielle Wiebe: Oh my gosh, that's so powerful. And I think we all need to [00:11:00] hear that because often we can show, like you said, compassion for other people and we can, we can see things in other people that often we can't see in ourselves.
[00:11:12] Marta Spirk: Yeah.
[00:11:12] Danielle Wiebe: And, for example, you know, and I'm sure you've worked through this as well, just with with your clients, but then with yourself as well. But like when you talk about your story, it's like, wow, what a multi passionate, amazing woman.
[00:11:23] Marta Spirk: Mm-hmm.
[00:11:23] Danielle Wiebe: who has just gone for. And brave and all of these things, right? But for you, it's like judging yourself on doing all these different things. And so I think I love that you said that, and it's so, so powerful for us to think about why do we see the best in other people often, and we compare ourselves to other people's journeys and successes and, but we can't see that same ability in ourselves to, to do amazing things.
[00:11:49] So what do you think has helped you to, I mean you, you started this podcast, you've grown this podcast, you've written a book.
[00:11:57] Marta Spirk: Mm-hmm.
[00:11:58] Danielle Wiebe: you have spoken [00:12:00] on stages, you've done at TEDx talk. Like, you know, when it comes to actually doing quitting yourself out there, like what do you think has helped you to be able to do that for people who are maybe struggling with that?
[00:12:10] Marta Spirk: Yeah, so one of the first tools that really sent me off on this journey, I've added other ones and they've all complimented each other, but that's like the, the chief tool of everything. And what I incorporated in my book and what I still use is the Enneagream, which is a personality framework.
[00:12:27] Talked to several Ingram experts, I have studi it quite extensively in the last six years, and at the end of the day too, It's not that it's pigeonholing or putting somebody in a box. It's a psychological analysis of behavior, of
[00:12:42] Danielle Wiebe: right
[00:12:43] Marta Spirk: motivation. So it's not something that is determining anyone. It's an observation of what is, so where do you fall into this so that you can understand yourself and then be more intentional with the things that you do and understand people around you [00:13:00] so that you're not taking things personally. And I think the best of all, separating yourself from other people, separating yourself from people's projections.
[00:13:07] Is this really me or am I doing this out of fear of being rejected? Right? Is this really me or is this something that my parents decided that I needed to be like and do you know, or that I incorporated as a child because I wanted to fit in. There's so many different layers. So I love the I Enneagram because of that.
[00:13:24] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:13:25] Marta Spirk: But one, one of the things is that it could be an overwhelming tool cuz there's nine different personality types. And that's to where I took it upon myself to simplify it and we can talk more.
[00:13:33] Danielle Wiebe: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay. I'm all about simplification cuz I've always gotten asked like, What are you in the Enneagream? I'm like, I have no idea. I haven't, I haven't taken the time to take the tests because I'm just like, eh, don't have time for that.
[00:13:45] Marta Spirk: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:13:46] Danielle Wiebe: Which like, I know what would be helpful for me, but I actually, I actually found you and I connected with you through Steph, which is amazing.
[00:13:54] Marta Spirk: Mm-hmm.
[00:13:54] Danielle Wiebe: And then I found, I found your personality type and I was like, Wow, this is so cool. And [00:14:00] I loved that there is three.
[00:14:02] Marta Spirk: Mm-hmm.
[00:14:02] Danielle Wiebe: right? There's three
[00:14:03] Marta Spirk: Yes.
[00:14:03] Danielle Wiebe: Personalities. So tell us about that and tell us, tell us more about, Cuz I know you talk about like networking based on your personality type, but also of course there's probably a lot of different other things
[00:14:15] Marta Spirk: Yeah.
[00:14:15] Danielle Wiebe: That we can glean from our personality. So tell us a little bit more about that.
[00:14:19] Marta Spirk: Yes, definitely. So what I decided to do, cause there's different ways of grouping the nine types based on some of their commonalities. So in studying it, I decided to use one of the ways that you can group them, which is by their stance.
[00:14:32] So it's basically how they interact in the world. And you can group the nine types into three categories. So you get three types per category, and then I created my own names for it. So when you are studying the traditional way of the Enneagram, the three stances are an aggressive stance, withdrawn stance, and a dependent stance.
[00:14:50] And as I was looking into all of them, I came up with the names, feeler, thinker, feeler, thinkers, and doers.
[00:14:55] Danielle Wiebe: I love that because it's so much more positive too. Like I feel like the other one likes kinda [00:15:00] negative and you're like, Oh,
[00:15:01] Marta Spirk: right? Yeah. And it's, And it's a lot more understandable, right? So it's like doer, okay, maybe I could be this one. Feeler, okay, maybe I could be this one. But it's a little bit tricky cuz at times you would think feeler, oh, it's a very emotional person, I cry all the time, which I cry. Especially after having kids, like I'm watching a commercial and I cry.
[00:15:17] Danielle Wiebe: Yes.
[00:15:17] Marta Spirk: But that's not what that means.
[00:15:19] Danielle Wiebe: Okay.
[00:15:19] Marta Spirk: So just for quick perspective, for those of you who understand the Enneagram, the feelers correspond to type one, two, and six. The thinkers correspond to types four, five, and nine, and the doers correspond to types three, seven, and eight. And so a quick rundown of all the three of the groups.
[00:15:37] So the feelers, they tend to be more analytical detail oriented, but the, their main thing is integrity and being super reliable. Those are the people that are going to be on time, that are going to be prepared. And then the backside of that, or the other side of this is they struggle with taking risks. Because they always wanna be prepared, they don't want to make a mistake. And I always say, you know, those are [00:16:00] your engineers and your architects.
[00:16:01] I say you, you would never want to walk on or under a bridge that I built because I'm not an attention to detail person.
[00:16:07] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:16:08] Marta Spirk: Doer, we'll get to that. But you need these people that are attention to detail. But they need the other types as well to compliment them, otherwise they're never gonna do anything cuz they're just gonna be assessing the risks and being scared of taking action. So that's one piece of that.
[00:16:22] The Thinkers, as a name implies, they're the withdrawn ones. They're more of the introverted ones, the stereotypical artist. When you think an artist or a scientist, that they're off on their own for hours doing something, reading, experimenting, that's a thinker. They love being on their own, which is great cuz they have brilliant ideas, but they need to exteriorize these ideas so that people can benefit from them.
[00:16:45] And that's the struggle with the thinker because they're more introverted, they struggle with taking action, putting themselves out there with the fear of rejection. So it's more of a fear of rejection than a fear of taking risks.
[00:16:54] And then the doers. Obviously are the ones that love taking action, putting themselves out there. They're the leaders, [00:17:00] the performers, they wanna be in front of everybody. I actually came up with a little analogy as I was, you know, developing more of the quiz and the messaging around it is that when you think of like a football team, the quarterback is a doer, right.
[00:17:12] They're out there. Everybody knows their name. Everybody loves it, loves to hate 'em, hate to love them. And then you have the coach, which is more of the feeler. They're kind of out there a little bit, but they're more on the managing side of it, looking at the details. They're not really the celebrity. They end up being for several reasons, but it's not the same.
[00:17:29] And then maybe the, the, the team doctor is a thinker. You don't really know the names of teams, doctors, unless something specific happens and then the news, you know, comes out or whatever. But they're more like, I don't, you don't need to know my name. I'm just here to do my job, you know? So that's kind of how they all play out.
[00:17:48] And so for the doers, the, the downside of being out there is really not having a whole lot of attention to detail cuz they're the type of people that are, what is the expression? Building the plane as they fly it.
[00:17:59] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:17:59] Marta Spirk: [00:18:00] That's what, that's what the doer is like. So they're out there doing stuff if it's going to be perfect and to detail, that's something to be considered, but
[00:18:10] Danielle Wiebe: Right.
[00:18:11] Marta Spirk: They're gonna get this stuff done, but they need the other types. So we all compliment each other. And then when we talk about business, I mean, in any interaction, you can think about this dynamics with your kids, dynamics with your spouse, you know, at a job and then with your clients, right?
[00:18:23] Or, uh, collaborating with other entrepreneurs, when you understand how you operate, and I always like to say you're on a sales call and you're a doer, and the other person just sitting there quiet, you may think, My gosh, they hate me and I, I need to stop talking. And they may be a feeler or a thinker. They just don't talk much. They just like to analyze and take in the information.
[00:18:45] When two doers get on to chatting,
[00:18:49] Danielle Wiebe: Yes.
[00:18:49] Marta Spirk: They need to find a cue to interject or they're not going to, they're just gonna talk on top of each other, because they're so energetic. So it's not that people don't like [00:19:00] you, right? That's what we usually tend towards is, we take it personally and in reality is that's just the way that they are. That's how they behave. So that's a little bit of it.
[00:19:09] Danielle Wiebe: Oh, so good. And I love that. And so do you feel like, with those personality types, that we can hone our skills as far as, like, for example, if we are a doer and you know, we're not used to thinking of the details or maybe we struggle with like actually being present and all those kind of things, do you feel like with the weaknesses we can kind of start to hone our skills, be aware of them, so that we can really just be more self aware for how we show up?
[00:19:40] Marta Spirk: Yeah.
[00:19:41] Danielle Wiebe: And maybe how people are potentially perceiving us and, and then kind of like hone in some of those things that might not come naturally to us, but we can sort of start to like build up those skills so that we can show up better for our businesses?
[00:19:57] Marta Spirk: Yeah, that's definitely the goal with [00:20:00] diving into your personality time, it's becoming aware of the things that you do, how it comes across to other people that don't operate like you. Cuz that's what doers end up getting a lot of is you're selfish, you're egocentric, right? You only think about yourself, but it's just the way they operate.
[00:20:16] It's like, no one's standing in my way. I don't care what you. Think I'm gonna do. It's not that they don't love the people, it's just that it's in their nature to go on and take action. Whereas other people, feelers specifically, they are more looking into how can I be helpful in this situation? You know, they're not looking into being the star, but we need people that need to be the star.
[00:20:37] Otherwise we don't have leaders, you know? So it's a crazy, uh, situation because we end up thinking, Oh, this one's better than the other one. There is no such thing. They all have strengths and weaknesses, and this is what the Enneagram helped me understand is that our strengths are our weaknesses.
[00:20:52] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:20:52] Marta Spirk: What if we don't leverage them? When we don't understand them, they get become exacerbated to a point where people can't stand us.
[00:20:59] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:20:59] Marta Spirk: So [00:21:00] it could be something positive actually becomes negative because I don't understand it and I don't use it to my advantage. So to your point, that's exactly it. It's becoming aware so that you can use it in a positive way because if you don't, even though it's there, it's just autopilot, which means people are receiving it from their perspective, which is not gonna be how you intend it.
[00:21:23] Danielle Wiebe: So good. Oh my goodness. Thank you for sharing that. That is so great, and I think so helpful. And I know you have a quiz that people can take.
[00:21:31] Marta Spirk: Yes.
[00:21:31] Danielle Wiebe: So do you wanna just share it with us right now where people can go, just so I don't forget to ask you.
[00:21:35] Marta Spirk: So if you just go to my website, martaspirk.com, you should find a little button to take the quiz. Or if you go martaspirk.com/quiz, you can take it. I'm calling it the What's your six figure Personality type. But the whole point of it is, you're gonna take the quiz and it's gonna tell you what you are now, meaning you already are your six figure person, right?
[00:21:54] This is the same type. The difference is you are not as aware as you could be to [00:22:00] actually step on the shoes of this self-accepting, self-loving, self-aware, feeler, thinker, or doer, and then you can actually operate like this person and understand the other types around you. That's the whole purpose of having three types too, is that you're not supposed to just understand yours.
[00:22:19] You need to look at the other ones to see how yours comes across and what you can learn from the other ones. So it's a lot easier to do that with two other than eight other.
[00:22:27] Danielle Wiebe: Absolutely. So good. And I think it's so valuable just to learn more just about not only yeah, how we operate, but also just how other people operate, whether that be our, our clients, like you said, or team members or even, Yeah, people in our personal life and how we can, cuz I think we are always focused on, okay, what's the strategy piece of this or that? And sometimes we just need to, we need to understand the way other people function in order to have success.
[00:22:56] Because obviously, as you know, and something we talk [00:23:00] about a lot on the podcast is that, can't do business by yourself. And there's always either building a community or building your team, knowing those things about how you operate and how others operate is gonna be so valuable in in moving forward. So thank you so much for sharing that.
[00:23:16] I love that. I wanna pivot a little bit and ask you a few things just about your, more of your personal story, cuz I'm just so curious. But what have you found has been some of the, either the biggest challenge or some of the biggest challenges that you have faced in growing your business? I know that you've mentioned just that kind of different pivots that you've made, but share with us a little bit about that. Cause I think it's really great to, to understand like where you've come to and you've written a book and done all these amazing things that a lot of people wanna do.
[00:23:46] Marta Spirk: Yeah.
[00:23:47] Danielle Wiebe: But what have those challenges looked like and how have you pushed through those challenging times?
[00:23:52] Marta Spirk: I would say the biggest thing that's coming up for me, and maybe at another time I would've said something else, is the concept of a timeline.
[00:23:59] [00:24:00] And I think a lot of this has become a lot more pressure and more negative because of the teachings and the thoughts out there and, and coaches and gurus and mentors saying, If you do this, it'll happen in a month. If you do this, things are gonna grow in 90 days. If you do this, my gosh, you can Quantum leap.
[00:24:19] And I've been writing like posts and, and kind of putting my own perspective out there. It's not that I don't think these people can actually help you make fast progress. It's not that I don't think we should be looking into progress, but I also want people to be mindful of the stress that that can cause. As a woman, as a wife, as a mother, at the same time, especially for the doers, that's a very important disclaimer there because like I said, with my experience with, with, uh, network marketing, I was very competitive.
[00:24:52] And when you are inly competitive and there's somebody outside of yourself saying, Do this now, do this now, you know, it's the [00:25:00] 30th of the month. You gotta, you know, it's just too much when you have all these other things going on in your life. More and more in my journey, looking back at all the things that I wanted to accomplish from day one that I have accomplished now, and at times I still feel like, eh, I need more. I need more. I'm not taking the time to appreciate or to be grateful for my journey, my clients.
[00:25:23] Look at a year ago, I only dreamed of having what I have now, and I'm still thinking this isn't enough. I'm still thinking maybe I'm not successful enough. The idea of the timeline that what if there is no timeline? You know what if I'm just going on this path and learning things as I am supposed to learn them? And if things appear slow, then it's because this is the pace that it has to be for me to learn what I need to learn, for me to be able to support my family at the same time, for me to be able to be more mindful of my own clients.
[00:25:57] And a lot of this has to do with, with comparison, which is what we [00:26:00] were just talking about before. And I think that's such a big part of my journey and that's a big part of my message cuz it usually goes hand in hand, right? What you're here to learn is what you're here to teach because my gosh, you know it so deeply, you know?
[00:26:14] So I think for me, that's why I've gotten so engrossed in this whole personality thing because, for so long, I've been comparing myself to others and wanting to be the best at everything that this turned into the message of Marta, you are who you are. No one can take that away from you.
[00:26:31] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:26:31] Marta Spirk: You know? So why are you looking so much outside of yourself and wanting to prove yourself and wanting to be like somebody else when that's never going to get you anywhere but frustration, you know?
[00:26:42] So, I would say that that has been my biggest challenge and therefore my biggest lesson and therefore my biggest message.
[00:26:50] Danielle Wiebe: Yes.
[00:26:51] Marta Spirk: Is start thinking about like if I have a purpose and if I'm here for a specific calling [00:27:00] and no one can take that away from me, and I love that analogy meme, God's calling to you was not a conference call.
[00:27:07] It was just you and him, you know? So it's your responsibility to know it. And at the end of the day, you should know best not your coach, not this other person, you know? Uh, and don't even get me started with people in church that told me things about my future. And I was like, But I don't see this. You know, what wouldn't God tell me this, you know?
[00:27:26] Danielle Wiebe: Yes.
[00:27:26] Marta Spirk: And that's all in my book, by the way. I talk about it, you know, I had stuff about my marriage and whatever, So I, I feel like if you know you're going, if you knew for sure you were going to get to your destination, does it really matter if it's going to take you three years, four years, five years? Why don't you just enjoy what you have right now if you really knew, Right?
[00:27:48] Danielle Wiebe: Right.
[00:27:48] Marta Spirk: Which you should. If you trust and believe.
[00:27:51] Danielle Wiebe: Yes. Oh my goodness. That is so, No, it's so good because it, it really is like, I see this again, I see this [00:28:00] so often in entrepreneurial communities, including my own and, and of course in myself as well. Like you said, you know, things you've experienced of, you know, thinking that, Oh, because I haven't accomplished this one thing that this person's accomplished, it means that I'm not successful or I'm not this or that.
[00:28:17] And it's, it's crazy because I think what we're doing is almost, we're looking at like all of these different people that we see online, right? And we're taking all of their different accomplishments. We're just like, well, this person wrote a book. This person has this, this person has this.
[00:28:32] Well, I need to have all of it. But all of those people are different people and they, they have a focus and they're, you know, going towards specific goals that, that they're clear on. And, I think, too, when we can make the biggest impact with our businesses, and I know that's something that you're passionate about as well as I am, and I know a lot of our listeners are as well, is they don't just wanna build a business just to build a business.
[00:28:54] They wanna make an impact and they wanna help people, whether it be for their products or services, whatever [00:29:00] that is. But I think we can do that the best. Yeah, when we are just true to ourselves and we're not trying to copy someone else's version of success or someone else's personality trait or like, Oh, I need to be more like that person because that's what she did to get successful.
[00:29:17] If we can just realize like we have those unique things that other people don't that are unique to us. And I love that you share that. And that's why I love talking about this and the personality types and everything because it's like owning who you are.
[00:29:30] Marta Spirk: Yes.
[00:29:31] Danielle Wiebe: And loving who you are, and then going forward in that so that you can impact the best way that you are able to.
[00:29:38] Marta Spirk: Right.
[00:29:39] Danielle Wiebe: So, yeah. Thank you for sharing that. That is so, so great. I think everyone needed to hear that ingredient.
[00:29:45] Marta Spirk: Mm-hmm. Repeatedly.
[00:29:46] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah, exactly right. Rewind. Listen to it again. I also wanna ask you, because I know you're a mom of triplets, so three kids, and so I wanna ask like, what has that journey been like for you, in raising [00:30:00] babies and growing a business at the same time? And what sort of lessons have you learned from from that experience?
[00:30:07] Marta Spirk: Yeah, I think there's so much overlap with raising children, even, uh, marriage and building a business because it really strips you down of any type of masks. It's kind of like those things when you're, when you're angry, you, even if you're not a person that curses, you're gonna curse.
[00:30:26] Like the true, the true you will come out. Like there are no, there's no hiding, right? And I think having these different things coming, like at the same time has helped me in a way keep myself accountable. Like if I'm saying this in this one area, then I need to be doing this in this other area too. And even like in business, if I'm telling my clients that I need to do this, but they see me doing something else, that doesn't work very well.
[00:30:50] And you know, that is the same with children because they, they watch what you're doing. Much more than they listen to what you're saying too. So I think that is [00:31:00] one of the biggest lessons that I have learned. And the challenge of, of balancing, right, Of not prioritizing one thing over the other, or elusive, because that's hard, obviously.
[00:31:11] Uh, there are certain times when you're gonna have your attention towards one thing, more than one, more than the other. And also giving yourself that compassion that you are doing the best that you can. And that is one of the things. I was, I just had a friend, uh, in Brazil that had twins and finally messaged me she's like, Oh, the entire time through pregnancy, I, I had meant to message you and asked, you know, any tips or where do you words of encouragement and I didn't, and they're here and blah, blah.
[00:31:36] But I read many books and I feel super prepared. And I was like, you know what? I think my biggest advice, and I know it's, you know, people always say that, enjoy it and everything, but when I look back at the pictures and the videos, Even when I'm tempted to be like, Man, I wish I would have enjoyed it more, I'm at a point where I'm like, I, I was there.
[00:31:58] I did the best that I [00:32:00] could and now if I wanna enjoy it more, I look at these pictures and I remember. We are so good at beating ourselves up and always saying, I could have done more. I could have done more. My gosh, how are you setting ourselves up for the future if you're constantly beating yourself up and blaming yourself?
[00:32:15] Guilt tripping yourself. And this goes for business too. Oh, I had this launch and it didn't go as well. I should have done this. I should have done that. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Or when I was talking about, you know, en enjoying the journey and being grateful for clients, that's something that one of my mentors said to me and I've been relaying it to my clients cuz it's so powerful.
[00:32:30] We set goals, right? I wanna have five people for this program. and then that first person signs up and they're like, Oh my gosh, that's exciting. And then like a day later, nobody signs up anymore and you forgot the first person. That per that first person means nothing. They don't even exist anymore, right?
[00:32:45] Because your goal is to have four more people. That's not how it should be. Right, we should be holding that space of gratitude because that is a human being, that it has trusted their finances with me. They've trusted their time with me. Right. It's [00:33:00] helped me revisit so many of these things and these values and really become a better person in so many ways because I am responsible for my actions in front of my children and my clients and my audience and the people that see me. So I think there's a huge accountability piece.
[00:33:18] Danielle Wiebe: Yes,
[00:33:19] Marta Spirk: because I, especially cuz I talk so much about empowerment.
[00:33:21] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:33:22] Marta Spirk: And taking responsibility for your own happiness and success. Well then I need to be paying attention.
[00:33:27] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah. Wow. So powerful. Gratitude is so important.
[00:33:31] Marta Spirk: Mm-hmm.
[00:33:31] Danielle Wiebe: and yeah. Wherever we're at, even if we feel like whoever's listening right now, if you feel maybe you're in a slump in your business, maybe sales have dried up or you're feeling a little bit lost, or you're feeling like, man, like I, I gotta make this work. And, and you're feeling, you're in that dark place.
[00:33:49] What can you be grateful for? Like even if it, you know, even if it takes you an hour to think of one thing that you can be grateful for. And it's just, it's [00:34:00] so powerful cuz it just changes our thinking from what's going wrong to what has gone right and what is good and what we're thankful for and what we're grateful for. And that ultimately allows our brain to also focus on opportunity and what can we actually take action on that will help us to create more
[00:34:20] Marta Spirk: Yes,
[00:34:20] Danielle Wiebe: success or joy. Fulfillment. All of the things. Right?
[00:34:25] Marta Spirk: Totally.
[00:34:25] Danielle Wiebe: So, so powerful. Thank you so much. I have loved this conversation. This is so much fun.
[00:34:29] Marta Spirk: Yeah, me too. Talk about it all day.
[00:34:31] Danielle Wiebe: Marta, Can you tell us more about how people can find you, how people can get in touch with you, join your community, all of the things. Share with us where we can, where can do that.
[00:34:41] Marta Spirk: Yeah, so you can find me all across social media as Marta Spirk.. I'm pretty much everywhere. Uh, I would love you to take, for you to take the quiz, like we mentioned before. I do have like a minicourse that goes with the quiz for you to understand each of the types more in depth.
[00:34:56] Once you get your results, then you can move on to the other two and understand them a [00:35:00] little bit more as well. Uh, I do have my podcast, The Empowered Woman Podcast, and you were a guest on there, that's coming out pretty soon. I'm excited for people to hear your story. What else do I have going on my book, The Empowered Woman, The Ultimate Roadmap to Business Success.
[00:35:13] You can find everything on my website, or if you go to Amazon, I recently did the Audible as well. So you, however way you prefer to consume content in terms of a book, it's there, so don't use that as an excuse. And it's a short book too, so you could finish it.
[00:35:25] Danielle Wiebe: Amazing. And do you, do you read it? I'm curious.
[00:35:27] Marta Spirk: I do, yes. I narrated it .
[00:35:29] Danielle Wiebe: So fun. So fun. I'm gonna check that out. That's amazing. I love Audible. I love audiobooks cuz I mean, of course I'm a podcaster, so, come on. I love listening. as a mom, it's like popping your earbuds and you're doing something, laundry, whatever.
[00:35:43] Marta Spirk: For sure.
[00:35:43] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah. Amazing. Marta, thank you so much for being on the podcast. So appreciate you.
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