94 - What to Focus on When You have Multiple Business Goals & Dreams (LIVE Coaching Call with Chaniel Clark of She Nurtures)
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In this episode, you get to be a fly on the wall for a 1:1 Business Coaching Call with Danielle and the incredible Chaniel Clark Founder of She Nurtures!
You can listen along as Danielle coaches Chaniel through reflective questions and prompts on how to get clear on what to focus on when it comes to all the goals and dreams she wants to accomplish for her life and business.
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[00:00:00] Danielle Wiebe: Welcome to another episode of The Business Babes Collective podcast. Today we have something really exciting and very different than what you're used to hearing on the podcast. So if you've been a listener for a while, then this will be very different from our other episodes.
[00:00:16] I am going to allow you to be a fly on the wall for a coaching conversation that I have with the incredible Chaniel Clark. So Chaniel and I did a coaching session where I helped her really get clear on what her next steps were for her business. And I took her through this series of questions and we really brainstorm together. And this is something that I have done with our mastermind members and some of my other coaching clients when they feel super overwhelmed with all the different things, all the different goals that they have, all the different dreams that they have and things that they wanna accomplish.
[00:00:54] And we went through this together and I asked Chaniel if I could actually put this on the [00:01:00] podcast and she agreed. So I'm super excited for you to listen in and be a fly on the wall for this coaching conversation. Let me tell you a little bit more about Chaniel because she's amazing. And I think you should definitely go check her out and follow her.
[00:01:15] So Chaniel Clark is the founder and CEO of the nonprofit called She Nurtures, which is a multicultural and multi-ethnic women's empowerment organization based in San francisco Bay area. She Nurtures exists to empower women to be bold and unafraid, to take action, and not just to survive, but to thrive.
[00:01:35] And I can't wait for you to hear her passion for this community that she's building. I think it's very incredibly inspiring. And if you want to follow Chaniel, her Instagram handle is Chanel, and it's spelled C H A N I E L L E, and then A T R I C E and her Instagram handle for her business is [00:02:00] @SHE.NURTURES. You can also find her online at www.shenurtures.org.
[00:02:05] So in this conversation we have coaching back and forth. So just so you know, kind of the structure. I cut a lot of it out because there were times when I was, letting Chanel kind of reflect on the questions and then she would answer all of that, those kind of things. So that has all been cut out of this episode just for time cuz we had the call for just over an hour. But I wanted to also let you know that we talk about some resources within the episode and so I am going to share all those resources in the show notes for you.
[00:02:38] So if you ever want to refer back to something, I will mention those all in the show notes. Another thing as well is that this is a really great example of how we can potentially work together one on one. So if what you hear today is something where you're like, Oh my goodness, I would love to be able to strategize like that with you, then go to business babes [00:03:00] collective.com/coaching and apply for one-on-one coaching with me.
[00:03:03] I would love to meet you. I can't wait to hear more about your business and your goals and how I can support you in that. All right. Last thing before we jump into the episode is our free workshop Coming up on September 28th, I am so excited. It is all about how to get massive exposure for your business organically through the power of collaborations and partnerships.
[00:03:25] So the reason why I'm so excited to talk about this is because this is the main way that we were able to build the community that we built, and it continues to be the way that we are able to scale our business very organically. We do not currently use any paid ads. I think paid ads are great, but we don't currently need to use them because we are getting more and more exposure through these amazing collaborations and partnerships that we are doing with other business owners.
[00:03:54] And so I wanna talk about that with you. I wanna strategize with you on how you can do that for your [00:04:00] business specifically. And so come to the free workshop. Go to businessbabescollective.com/workshop. Sign up there, and I can't wait to see you on September 28. All right, let's go ahead now and jump into the episode.
[00:04:14] Welcome to the Business Babes Collective podcast. I'm your host, Danielle Wiebe. In this podcast, you'll learn tangible business tips and strategies on how to grow successfully and sustainably. We'll also interview seasoned entrepreneurs so you can listen in on their stories and see behind the scenes of what it took to grow and scale their businesses. Let's dive in as we discuss the wild, exciting, crazy challenging, rollercoaster ride of entrepreneurship.
[00:04:44] I'm really excited to chat with you today and I can't wait to dive into some of your goals and what you wanna see for your business. Before we dive in though, can you just share a little bit more about you and your business before we get started?
[00:04:56] Chaniel Clark: Yes. So she Nurtures is [00:05:00] a nonprofit organization that works to empower women. It was inspired by my mom. And I grew up a middle class family in Chicago, West side Chicago, and my mom was a hardworking mom and, but there were certain things that I remember like growing up, wishing that she would take more initiative in.
[00:05:21] And as I became a working adult, a working woman myself, and surrounding myself around good women and good people, I realized that it wasn't that she didn't wanna do certain things, but she just didn't feel empowered in those areas. Like no one told her you should, you know, advocate for a fair wage. No one, you know, she was, she was, um, taking care of six, five children, not six, five children, and she wanted to do whatever she could to provide for her family.
[00:05:48] And so what we do is, we are largely event based, but we're working on programming that would really empower women around these areas. So for me, I think about the six main areas; [00:06:00] Health, health or wellness, finances, career, education, relationships. You know, how do you practically empower women among, around these areas?
[00:06:09] And I always like to use, for an example, how do you practically empower a woman around the area of her finances? You teach her how to invest. How do you empower a woman, around in the area of her career? You teach her how to negotiate her salary, and so that's really what she nurtures is. It's how bringing together women to be able to empower them and make them feel strong that they can thrive in these areas.
[00:06:32] And so I'm very proud of the organizations. We're babies. We're a baby and, but I feel like I have that passion and I've had this vision for a very long time, and I think as I've grown and learned working in the marketplace, I think that my vision for wanting more and doing more has grown as well.
[00:06:52] Danielle Wiebe: Oh, it's so beautiful. I am super excited for you and I can't wait to do this exercise with you. I think this is gonna be amazing. So the first question that I [00:07:00] have for you and what I want you to think about, and I'm gonna give you a couple minute to kind of write down what your thoughts are, but I want you to basically do brain dump of all of the dreams and goals that you want to accomplish.
[00:07:13] Now this exercise is meant to be not holding back. So I don't want you to like filter yourself. Everything that you can think of, like you were talking about kind of financial business, personal goals, spiritual travel, giving back, lifestyle, whatever you wanna share.
[00:07:29] And by the way, you don't have to share all those things with me. This is for you to just dive into what your dreams and your goals are, and then whatever you would like to share, then after, and that's what we're gonna kind of brainstorm together on, which I'm really excited. So I'm gonna give you a couple minutes now, so
[00:07:47] Chaniel Clark: Okay.
[00:07:47] Danielle Wiebe: Just to brainstorm out some of the goals that you have, and then we'll come back and we'll get started.
[00:07:54] Chaniel Clark: Okay. I'm excited.
[00:07:55] Danielle Wiebe: Awesome. So you have your big goals, which is really exciting. I [00:08:00] wanna ask you a couple of follow up questions, because sometimes we do, even though you know I said don't hold yourself back, sometimes we still do.
[00:08:07] Chaniel Clark: Yes.
[00:08:09] Danielle Wiebe: So what is a dream that maybe you've never written down or allowed yourself to think about? Because maybe it feels too scary or too out of reach? Feel free to write that down.
[00:08:23] Chaniel Clark: Okay.
[00:08:24] Danielle Wiebe: You got.
[00:08:25] Chaniel Clark: I do.
[00:08:26] Danielle Wiebe: Okay. Awesome. And then the next question is remembering back to when you were a kid. So are there any dreams or goals back then? Maybe you had them when you were little and you know, you thought anything was possible. You know, when you're like five years old, you just think the world is at your fingertips. Anything is possible. Is there anything that you can think of that you thought when you were a little kid of what you wanted to do? Even if it's something that doesn't resonate with you still today? That's okay. Feel free to write that down as well.
[00:08:56] Chaniel Clark: Yeah, I have, I have that one. I could share that too if you'd like.
[00:08:59] Danielle Wiebe: Do you wanna [00:09:00] share it?
[00:09:00] Chaniel Clark: Yeah, I,
[00:09:01] Danielle Wiebe: I'd love to hear it.
[00:09:02] Chaniel Clark: I don't mind sharing things. I'm pretty much an open book. Um, yes. I, I am a writer and it was actually my, I believe, fifth grade teacher that kind of peaked my interest in writing. She introduced me to poetry and so, um, we started learning about haikus and I loved it, and I became a poet. And so after I started writing poetry, I started writing short stories and this was like fifth, sixth grade. And so I used to write a lot and eventually, so one of my dreams, and it still is to this day, is to complete a series of of novels and
[00:09:41] Danielle Wiebe: Wow.
[00:09:42] Chaniel Clark: I've actually started a couple and I haven't, I always, I never find the time to complete them cause I feel like I'm always too busy surviving, but just finding time to just write them out. Like I love them. I feel like they're really great stories. And so really too, That's a dream. To be a [00:10:00] novelist, I think, to, to be an author, published author is definitely a childhood dream of mine that, um,
[00:10:07] Danielle Wiebe: So good
[00:10:07] Chaniel Clark: I am pursuing. Yeah.
[00:10:09] Danielle Wiebe: I love that so much. That is so inspiring. I love that. And I love that your teacher, back then, in grade five was, you know, someone who inspired you. I, I love. Shout out to all of the amazing teachers out there who put dreams in kids' hearts, that that still is, is something that you're still dreaming of today. I love that so much. Okay, the last question I have, and then we're gonna get into the strategizing, brainstorming session.
[00:10:33] What goal would you pursue if you knew for a fact that it would be wildly successful?
[00:10:40] Chaniel Clark: I, I think the goal would be she nurtures. I, this, this very, this is, This is my passion. I think for me, I finally realized that my, my calling, my passion, my dream, whatever, whatever you wanna call it, I feel [00:11:00] most fulfilled when I am helping others. And so, um, for me, I realize that this is part of that.
[00:11:07] Like right now, yes, I'm working in schools and I feel, I feel I work in a high school and I feel so fulfilled when I support my students. So empowering others, I feel like that's, that's kind of the dream. And I think, I believe that she nurtures is a really great idea, not just because it's my idea I would support any other woman, uh, any other woman that was, uh, doing the same thing.
[00:11:28] I, I would love to put my all, 100% of my time into building this brand and really empowering other womens, and I think other women, and I would feel really fulfilled in that.
[00:11:40] Danielle Wiebe: I love it so much. Sounds like you're pretty clear on, on your goals and on your vision, so I love that and I'm super excited for you.
[00:11:49] So now we're gonna get into clarifying your focus goals. So, What I mean by the focus goal, and this is why, cuz I know when we originally talked the first [00:12:00] time, you were kind of talking about how you had kind of all these ideas and you're not really exactly sure what the next steps are.
[00:12:06] And I know that that can be really overwhelming for most of us as entrepreneurs. It's like we have all these ideas. We want to pursue this goal and this dream that we have. But it's like, what are the next few steps? Because there's so much we could do. So what do we wanna focus on first?
[00:12:21] Right now, I want you to go over your goals and and your dreams and either choose a goal or something that you've potentially already written down, or most of the time actually, it's something that maybe you haven't even thought of yet that could be your big focus goal. And what that means is, is that it's the goal that's gonna actually help all the other goals to be accomplished. So it's almost gonna be this domino effect where, when you accomplish that one goal, all of the other goals are gonna kind of domino over. And so does, does that make sense to you, first of all before I [00:13:00] move on?
[00:13:00] Chaniel Clark: Yes.
[00:13:00] Danielle Wiebe: Okay. Okay. Amazing. To kind of understand that goal, what you can do right now is maybe highlight or circle or star five of the goals that you have right now that you think are the most important to you, and then I'm happy to brainstorm with you and we can kind of strategize on what that focus goal might be. So I'll give you a few minutes to do that, and then why don't you let me know when, when you're ready to move on.
[00:13:24] Chaniel Clark: Sounds good. Thank you.
[00:13:25] Danielle Wiebe: Okay. So. Do you wanna share some of your top goals that you'd love to accomplish?
[00:13:31] Chaniel Clark: Sure. I think these goals are a mix of long term and maybe short term goals.
[00:13:38] Danielle Wiebe: That's great. Perfect.
[00:13:39] Chaniel Clark: Okay. So at the top of my list would be to retire from my nine to five and work, work towards building she nurtures full time. Being able to like, sustain myself, like my, my personal finances in that. One of my goals also is to build a second chapter of She Nurtures, which is, um, I [00:14:00] envision it being around youth empowerment. Um, I think that's so closely aligned to my heart and what I do now for my students. Um, I couldn't, I couldn't imagine just leaving them and not having something to support them.
[00:14:13] I wanna be a global citizen. I love history. I love the idea of traveling abroad. I've done minimal traveling and so, but to be a global citizen, I think that could also, because my organization is multicultural, multi multiethnic, I feel like I can understand individuals better if I'm more cultured.
[00:14:33] I also love the idea of speaking. I mentioned that my teacher inspired me to write poetry, uh, but eventually that grew into me performing poetry, and so I performed poetry on stages in California as well as in Chicago. I've been in a couple competitions, hosted competitions, and so I feel like I could hold my own in terms of speaking, and so I like that idea of [00:15:00] traveling and speaking to women, individuals, students. Being a speaker, a public speaker, is something that I'm really interested in.
[00:15:09] Two more. One is to really complete one of my novels. My characters call out to me sometimes, and so I think there's such good stories and I think people would enjoy them. So that's a goal of mine.
[00:15:20] And finally, a very personal one is it is my desire to foster one or two children. My family, we've adopted and we foster children for as long as I can remember. And I just have such a heart, I think, maybe for orphans and for, and for children, um, it's, I, as I say, it's in my nature to nurture. And so that's a personal goal of mine, which is to be a foster mom.
[00:15:45] Danielle Wiebe: So amazing. Oh, I love all of these amazing goals is so inspiring. Okay, so have you thought about potentially what a focus school could be? So all of these things that you mentioned, right. [00:16:00] They're different things. Like you said, some of them are short term goals, some of them are long term goals.
[00:16:05] If you could think of a goal that maybe is outside of just these specific things that you shared that would allow you, would give you the ability to have these goals come to fruition? Are there any ideas that kind of pop up for you or come to mind?
[00:16:23] Chaniel Clark: So yes and no. I mean,
[00:16:26] Danielle Wiebe: yeah, that's okay.
[00:16:27] Chaniel Clark: I think. I think it's this, I think it's the whole like, Oh, is it a good idea? Would it work? I think those are the things that are playing,
[00:16:33] Danielle Wiebe: and that's what the brainstorming is for. This is exactly what brainstorming is for, is just getting out your ideas. Even if you think they're crazy or whatever, and then we brainstorm together and that's where we come up with a solution. So don't, Don't be afraid of sharing, even if you're not sure.
[00:16:49] Chaniel Clark: Yeah, I think so. A
[00:16:50] couple things come to mind. One is I always feel like I want to be prepared for, um, for all of these [00:17:00] things, you know, every one of these things. And so I think, I always feel like education is, is the key to, uh, being able to move forward. And so, um, I've toyed with the idea of, um, going back for a master's and, and so I feel like having that understanding.
[00:17:19] I mean, having that education, that additional, um, background could help me as I set to really create the foundation for this business and to, to grow. And so that's definitely something that I've thought about. You know, I've been in school for a very long time with kids. I can't imagine going back myself.
[00:17:39] Danielle Wiebe: Okay.
[00:17:40] Chaniel Clark: But yes. Um, I've thought about going back to school. I've also thought about, I've also thought about just really pushing to, really just starting, starting the business and just without having a, a firm foundation, even though I know that's not wisdom, but like just getting started, just starting to have [00:18:00] events, starting to network, starting to have connections.
[00:18:03] And so I think those are, those are things that I've thought about too. This goal of just having an event and just moving forward. And I've done that a little bit, but I, but I don't necessarily think that's the best thing to do. Yeah. So I think education is a, is probably the biggest one I've thought about and I've also toyed with the idea of working for another company that may be doing something similar to what I'm doing right now to gain experience and running my own nonprofit.
[00:18:33] So I've done that. I've worked for, I work for a nonprofit now, but at the same time, I think it's a little bit different when you're more on the business side of things. And so I've thought about that as well.
[00:18:43] Danielle Wiebe: Okay, awesome. Um, so what I'm hearing from you is like education, just starting, like starting to kind of build the momentum, build the business, all of that, potentially working for another company.
[00:18:55] A few things, a few things that kind of, I'm picking out from both your [00:19:00] goals and then also, um, what you just said is, for you, the really important things are personal growth, personal development, education, which is amazing. And then also just like starting. Putting one foot in front of the other, even if you're not really sure kind of where that's gonna lead. And then learning from other people. That might have gone before you.
[00:19:22] Chaniel Clark: Yes.
[00:19:22] Danielle Wiebe: So I know we briefly talked about this before, but are there, are there any other ideas of how you could potentially get that education? I know you said you, you just said that you're not sure if you could even think about going back to school, right. Is there a way to gain that education, gain that knowledge, potentially even gain that knowledge from other people who have gone before you and taking that step to build your community without having to actually go back to school without having to actually maybe work for another company?
[00:19:53] What are some other things that you can, creative ideas that you can think of that might allow you to kind of build [00:20:00] that community without maybe having to spend really valuable money?
[00:20:07] Chaniel Clark: Yeah.
[00:20:07] Danielle Wiebe: Or time or a lot of time, right? Um, and the only thing you're gonna, you're gonna do is going to. Require time and it's gonna require some investment as well.
[00:20:16] Chaniel Clark: Right.
[00:20:17] Danielle Wiebe: But how could we do this in a way that actually brings those results faster than some of the things that you shared?
[00:20:23] Chaniel Clark: So I think the first thing that comes to my mind is I'm a very collaborative person, and so I think collaborating with like-minded women, uh, like-minded organizations would really benefit me. I think that's one of the reasons why I was connected with you
[00:20:38] Danielle Wiebe: mm-hmm.
[00:20:39] Chaniel Clark: and connected with, with another business woman is because I felt that I could learn from you. I felt that there was something to glean. And so I see that as an area. I think one of the things that I definitely envision she nurture being is collaborative and I think
[00:20:59] Danielle Wiebe: mm-hmm.
[00:20:59] Chaniel Clark: [00:21:00] I don't, I don't necessarily believe that you need to reinvent the wheel. And so that's not something I wanna work smarter, not harder, right?
[00:21:09] Danielle Wiebe: And a hundred percent, yes. preach.
[00:21:13] Chaniel Clark: And so it's like, how do I do that? How do I work smarter, not harder? And also, I'm a firm believer that experience doesn't have to be the best teacher. I can learn from your experiences.
[00:21:26] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:21:26] Chaniel Clark: Granted, I'm going to have my own. But if I can glean and learn and listen to other women and their experiences and the things that they've overcome, maybe then I could avoid some of the pitfalls, right?
[00:21:42] Danielle Wiebe: And mm-hmm.
[00:21:43] Chaniel Clark: granted again, I'm gonna have my own, but you know, I, I feel like I would be able to learn a little bit more and being collaborative with other organizations, other women, making those connections. Networking. Networking is super important.
[00:21:57] Danielle Wiebe: Mm-hmm.
[00:21:57] Chaniel Clark: I think outside, you know, education, you [00:22:00] know, outside of education. I think that would be probably even more beneficial in some ways.
[00:22:06] Danielle Wiebe: I love that. Well, I have some ideas for you if you're open to hearing them.
[00:22:10] Chaniel Clark: Yeah. Of course.
[00:22:10] Danielle Wiebe: Because Okay. Everything that you're sharing right now, I absolutely love that we got to the point where it's like, yes, collaborative. I mean, you are totally sp speaking my language here, collaborating with other likeminded women organizations, learning from others, I a hundred percent agree with you that you don't necessarily have to make the mistakes yourself in order to learn from them.
[00:22:30] You can learn from other people who've already made the mistakes. And so I love that. And one of the things that I think is gonna be so key for you, because a lot of the things that you shared, speaking, travel, poetry, writing, all of those things require building some sort of platform, personal brand that is collaborative with others.
[00:22:53] Chaniel Clark: Yeah.
[00:22:54] Danielle Wiebe: So for you, I feel like something that you could do is build some [00:23:00] sort of platform, whether that be a blog, whether that be a podcast, a YouTube channel, something that is online so that it's available. Cuz like you said, you wanna travel.
[00:23:10] Chaniel Clark: Yeah.
[00:23:10] Danielle Wiebe: So something that's global, that has global potential, global reach and impact that where you could bring on, not only could you share your expertise because you have such amazing things to share with this world, you could also bring on other experts and other, other women or other businesses or other people that you admire, to gain from their knowledge as well.
[00:23:33] Before I go too much too far into that, how does that feel for you? What are your initial thoughts?
[00:23:41] Chaniel Clark: My initial thought. I love the idea. I love the idea. I've toyed with the idea of starting a podcast before. I think a little bit the, you know, the feared was, was the fear was like, how do I do it? You know, there's so many, you know, what equipment do you buy? Who do you talk to? What, you know, what is hosting?[00:24:00]
[00:24:00] I think all of those things kind of overwhelmed me a little bit. Um, but I do like that idea of being able to have authentic and honest conversations. I love meeting great people like you, like, um, Karen, different people. I love the idea of introducing great women, great individuals to the masses, and so having a podcast was very interesting to me.
[00:24:23] I also liked that idea of writing, and so I had thought about a blog. I tried it. I tried blogging just a little bit, but I think it was really the, if I, if I will be completely honest. Let us be honest, ,
[00:24:37] Danielle Wiebe: Yes, please do. That's what we're here for.
[00:24:40] Chaniel Clark: Is about consistency, right? Because I think it can get overwhelming. It's like, Okay, I have to schedule to write this. You know what I mean? To have this published at this time and that time and wanting to make sure, I think I want to make sure that the content that I produce is not only engaging, [00:25:00] but it's, you know, it's helpful and engaging. And so I think those are some of the things that, uh, overwhelm me and the idea. But I love the idea of having a podcast and talking and engaging with individuals. So yes, I love the idea.
[00:25:13] Danielle Wiebe: I love that. Okay, so let me ask you this question. If you knew that pursuing a podcast would be wildly successful if you launched it, is that something that you'd wanna do?
[00:25:25] Chaniel Clark: A thousand percent.
[00:25:27] Danielle Wiebe: Okay. Amazing. Well, I think that's your answer,
[00:25:32] So let me ask you a couple more questions. Cause I think a lot of what you said, and I totally understand that, because first of all, that was a lot of things that I thought too, before launching my podcast. And that's a lot of things that most women think before launching their platforms, their businesses, their ideas out into the world.
[00:25:47] It's like, What do I even need to get started? What if I'm not consistent? What if the content isn't that great? Like all of those fears are exactly what every other human being is worried [00:26:00] about, a hundred percent. So you're not alone in that.
[00:26:02] I think one of the things that I wanna ask you is, What if you could make it simple or what if you could make it easy? What would that look like? And asking yourself that question and almost challenging yourself to think there's a million different ways that you could have a podcast. You know, there's some people who have podcasts where they have the video, they have the audio, they have the everything, and they're repurposing it on every platform you can imagine.
[00:26:29] And that's great, but what if that's not how you wanna start? What if that's not what you wanna do? What if you wanna make it really simple? What if you just want to put out an episode? You wanna put it out into the world and that's all you wanna do, right? So I think we can really overcomplicate things because we see other people doing them and we're like, But that person does this and then they have to do this, this, this, this.
[00:26:54] And they have this big team that helps them do it. Great. Five years from now when you're at that point, awesome. [00:27:00] Have it going on 1,001 different platforms and repurposing it everywhere. Right? So I think it's just important to realize that you can start super simple. You can start very easy. And also what you said, I love that you said you, you wanted to potentially start a blog and then you found about a podcast too.
[00:27:21] The beautiful thing about having a podcast or a blog is that you could repurpose it to one or the other. So for example, if you have something that you wanna share, And it depends on what you love, right? Like if you wanna share it verbally, you could then transcribe it and put it on your blog, and that could be your, be your blog.
[00:27:39] You could make it easy. And then you're, you're really just having to do one thing and then repurposing it into another thing. The other thing is too, is that if the thing that you wanna do is just going to be another thing on your list of things to do, and it's not actually a priority. That's when it gets put to the back burner, right?
[00:27:59] [00:28:00] But if the thing, and this is why we want it to be a focus goal, if this is the focus goal, for example, if this is the domino that's going to help have all the other goals that you shared, it's gonna be the domino effect that's gonna help everything else come to fruition, right? If this is the thing, then you're gonna put it as a priority, because you know that building this community and building this platform is what is going to allow you to do all the other things that you want to do. But if it's just kind of a side thing and an extra
[00:28:34] Chaniel Clark: mm-hmm.
[00:28:35] Danielle Wiebe: that's when it becomes, uh, do I really, am I really gonna do something this week? Like, Oh, I'm feeling tired. But if you're like, No, this is actually. The whole thing, like this is how, this is what it's gonna open doors for me. This is what is going to allow me to hone my skills, learn from other people, like all those things that you shared, education, you can get a master's degree with the podcast because you can invite people on.
[00:28:58] Chaniel Clark: Yeah.
[00:28:58] Danielle Wiebe: That you would want to be [00:29:00] your professor in business, right. And you can interview them and you can ask them any questions that you want. We live in such a cool time right now where that is available and so, how do you feel about pursuing the podcast?
[00:29:17] Chaniel Clark: I, I feel, I feel a bit more energized around it. I think one of the things that, as I mentioned like this, You know, like one to be authentic. I feel like you said there's so many different podcasts out there and it's done so many different ways. And one of the things that I, I have to remind myself is that comparison is a thief of joy, right?
[00:29:41] Like, and so I have to continually to remind myself that you don't have to do and be like others. And so I, so I think I'm taking my own advice in this moment and well,
[00:29:53] Danielle Wiebe: yes.
[00:29:54] Chaniel Clark: And saying, you know, Just do it. I like how you said, you know, maybe it's just a [00:30:00] simple podcast. One of the things I thought about doing was like downloading the software and just having just myself speaking and then kind of, you know, this is my thoughts about this specific issue.
[00:30:12] And I think also one of the things, again, I talked about content like where, you know, how do I hone in on like what my subject area is? And wanting to build branding around, and then I started explaining, Oh, I have to build branding around this. Who do I talk to? I have to set up meetings. I start to overwhelm myself.
[00:30:31] Danielle Wiebe: Yes.
[00:30:31] Chaniel Clark: But I like the idea when you said, Maybe I just put out this one episode and it's about this part, you know, this particular subject. And even getting started, I could start to grow and find out more, more this is, this is, this could be my niche. And so, um, no, that's, that's really something to think about.
[00:30:53] And I think you're right. Like I don't, this is not the back burner, this is the dream. You know, like [00:31:00] she nurtures is the dream. And so I know it's about building a community, what you said. So I need to find a solid platform so that I can lead everyone to that, right. And say, you know, like everyone come here.
[00:31:14] Danielle Wiebe: Exactly. Exactly. Well, and and the cool thing is, is that I know for what it's given me anyways is that our community used to live at our events, at our in-person events.
[00:31:25] Chaniel Clark: Right, Right.
[00:31:26] Danielle Wiebe: It was beautiful. It was amazing and everyone in the room could experience what it was like to be a part of our community, and that was great. But then the event was over and then people went home, and then people went back into their routine and they didn't have that constant connection unless they, you know, joined one of our programs or something like that. But they didn't have that kind of consistent connection with us.
[00:31:51] And so for the podcast, like that's allowed us not only to stay in contact and, and be able to serve our community in a bigger capacity, but [00:32:00] also, I mean, yeah, we have listeners all around the world now, which is so exciting. And so it, it's gone global and the collaboration opportunities have been amazing through, through starting this. And so I just wanna encourage you, maybe take some time now that you have this, this thought of like Okay, the podcast.
[00:32:20] And so I have some follow up questions. So do you wanna have that as your focus goal? By the way, are we sure about this?
[00:32:26] Chaniel Clark: I'm ready. I'm ready, Danielle. I'm ready.
[00:32:30] Danielle Wiebe: Okay. Amazing. So the focus goal is starting the podcast. Now, here's the beautiful thing. You already have a title.
[00:32:37] Chaniel Clark: Yeah.
[00:32:37] Danielle Wiebe: A lot of people spend like 3, 4, 6, 1 year trying to come up with the title. You already have it?
[00:32:43] Chaniel Clark: Yes.
[00:32:44] Danielle Wiebe: It's the title of your community. Just she nurtures, right?
[00:32:48] Chaniel Clark: Yeah, Yeah.
[00:32:49] Danielle Wiebe: It's perfect. So you already have a title. You already have your pillars, really. Because you just shared with me at the beginning when you were [00:33:00] talking more about your community, you were sharing all the things that you wanted to share about, and so you already basically have your outline of your podcast and all the different things that you can talk about, right. And that you can bring guests on board with.
[00:33:17] Chaniel Clark: Yes. I didn't think, Yeah.
[00:33:18] Danielle Wiebe: Now I wanna ask you some follow up questions to that. So first of all, what is the first step in making this goal A reality?
[00:33:26] Chaniel Clark: Huh? The first step? Google. How do you start a podcast?? No. I think the first step is even though I have, like I said, I have vision around this, I think that first step is writing down, kind of writing down that vision of this isn't just a brand, a company, organization that you are building.
[00:33:47] Now, how do you turn that into a podcast? And so I think that's the first thing that I would probably do to start writing those things down. And Oh, okay, so maybe you have an episode [00:34:00] about, you know, about um, finances. You have episode about health, you have a health episode about wellness, like or about beauty, whatever, right? I think so, I think I would start doing those things and uh, started, I would start thinking about who I can collaborate with on those things and any research that I need to be done.
[00:34:18] Not in depth, but just kind of like off the top of my head, like, Okay, you know, this person, you know that person. This is, you know, you could collaborate here. But I also think I would probably start to think about the technical aspect of it.
[00:34:32] Danielle Wiebe: Mm-hmm.
[00:34:32] Chaniel Clark: and what software I would use. Um, if I need to have any hosting, I think I would start to think about those. I would start there.
[00:34:41] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah. Yep. And you have people you can ask. Hello.
[00:34:44] Chaniel Clark: Yay.
[00:34:45] Danielle Wiebe: You can have people, you can ask about those things. And if you really want like a strategic kind of step by step. I actually took a course that was really great that I'm now an affiliate for because it was so amazing and it goes through all the technical everything. So I can share [00:35:00] that in a, a link if you're interested in, in that.
[00:35:02] But really I would just start, like you said, brainstorming and then asking people, Asking people that I've already done it. I mean, you know, you, you already talked about that, like you don't have to reinvent the wheel.
[00:35:13] Chaniel Clark: Right.
[00:35:14] Danielle Wiebe: There are millions of people who have done this, and so who can you connect with? Who can you ask those questions and just know that, you know, if these people have done it, then I can absolutely do it too. I can figure it out. It's always the hardest when you are first getting started. It feels overwhelming. There's lots of different things, but that's why breaking it down into super, super small steps is so key is breaking it down into things that are gonna take you less than 10 minutes.
[00:35:41] This is what I always share with our students, with, with the coaching clients that I have, like break it down into something that's gonna take you 10 minutes and that's it. And that's what's on your to do list for the day, and that's one thing that you're gonna do to move this forward today. It's gonna take you 10 minutes.
[00:35:59] After [00:36:00] that 10 minutes you're. And it's taken you one baby step forward to make this goal a reality. Or else what ends up happening is you have on your calendar, launch podcast and you have like launch podcast on like every single day and you're like, Wait, what do I like? What's the next step? So if you actually have those like next steps and there's those baby steps, right?
[00:36:20] One step could be the brainstorming, right? Brainstorming what topics you wanna talk about on the podcast. The next day, you're gonna brainstorm all the people that you wanna connect with and potentially collaborate with. The next day you're gonna do some research on what are the platforms that I can host my podcast on?
[00:36:35] Chaniel Clark: Yeah.
[00:36:36] Danielle Wiebe: The next day you're gonna research what kind of mic am I going to buy? These can all be done in very small steps and that's what I would recommend for you especially cuz I know you are very busy and you have a lot on your plate. And so that is something that's gonna be super key and important is putting it, putting those tiny little steps in your calendar.
[00:36:56] So I think you already answered some of these questions. The [00:37:00] first steps in making this a reality, what do you need to learn? I think you already kind of shared that, right? You need to learn how to start, how to make it, you know, how to make it a successful podcast.
[00:37:09] How do you make the most of, of this launch? And what resources will you need? That's another question to, to think. So we kind of already talked about that too, right? You're gonna need a hosting platform. You don't have to get some crazy equipment. Like I, I bought this one, this is a Blue Yeti mic, and I bought it off of, I don't, can't remember off of Amazon probably, and I think it was about $200.
[00:37:38] Something like that, but that's pretty much it, and these headphones, and that's what I did to start the podcast. I didn't buy any sort of crazy material. But you can also start it with your phone. So if you're really,
[00:37:50] Chaniel Clark: Yeah,
[00:37:50] Danielle Wiebe: you know, if you're really desperate, start talking on your phone. You don't need a mic either, so that's shouldn't be an issue.
[00:37:56] And then another question to ask is, will you require [00:38:00] help to achieve your goal? Will you require any kind of support or any kind of help? So that's something to to think about. What accountability do you feel like you need?
[00:38:09] Chaniel Clark: Yeah. I think that part is really important too. I think accounting.
[00:38:12] Danielle Wiebe: Yeah.
[00:38:12] Chaniel Clark: Really like, yeah, I like that idea of, uh, accountability and support as someone, I will say one of my, my top love language is probably words of affirmation. And so when I think when you started talking about those things, my mind started to drift to the people who I know I could lean on for support.
[00:38:34] Danielle Wiebe: Mm-hmm.
[00:38:34] Chaniel Clark: And I think that, I think that's comforting. That's making me feel less overwhelmed, knowing that, Oh, I know that this person would support me and hold me accountable in this area. Um, and so I think, yeah, I think one of the things that I've been wanting to practice is surrounding myself with people who believe in my vision.
[00:38:55] Danielle Wiebe: Yes.
[00:38:56] Chaniel Clark: And, um, I think that's, that's just something that I've [00:39:00] been doing right now. You know, even without really, uh, fully like going full-fledged into the business, my main objective in even talking to anyone, uh, about she nurtures has been like, Do you buy into my vision?
[00:39:13] Can you support that vision? Can you hold, I want, hold me accountable? Like I, I am okay with that. If it's going to make me better, if it's going to make the business better, then I want those people to surround me and to be able to support and so I not in this alone, and I'm so glad, I'm so glad that you're doing this and having me look at them as these individual steps, like these very small steps. I feel like those are things that I can handle.
[00:39:45] I think all of those things, making sure that I have really small steps, making sure that I have people to hold me accountable, you know, to be like, Chanel, get your stuff together. You know? I think those things I, I like that, like those things, those are things that I'm taking notes [00:40:00] on.
[00:40:00] Danielle Wiebe: Yes.
[00:40:00] Chaniel Clark: Um, and I know I have people who will call me out on like, Did you do this? Did you do that?
[00:40:05] Danielle Wiebe: Yes. So good. Yeah, so, so good. Oh, yeah. It's so powerful. It, it is really powerful though to surround yourself with people that really do support you and believe in what you're doing. I think it's like, it's vital, really, because we doubt ourselves enough. We don't need other people doubting us. We need other people to cheer us on. We need other people to say, Yes, this is an amazing vision. Yes, this is needed. Yes, like you're doing the right thing. You're on the right track. Like, go for it.
[00:40:36] You just need, you know, And that's why I, I love what I get to do because I get to cheerlead people and just say like, You can do it. Like it's, And I think one of the things that is important too is to know when to ask for that accountability or to know when to ask for that help when you're in those down moments where you're feeling like nothing is moving forward. When you're feeling down and you're [00:41:00] feeling uninspired, that's when you need to be reaching out for that help and that support.
[00:41:04] Chaniel Clark: Right.
[00:41:06] Danielle Wiebe: I encourage you just to remember that like if you're feeling like maybe giving up on your, on your idea, that's when you need to really ask for that support and ask for that help and that that accountability, cuz that's when you need it the most or are the moments when you're feeling feeling down, right?
[00:41:23] And we all have those moments, so we're human, of course, we're gonna have those moments. So accountability, we did talk about who you need to potentially work with or collaborate with. That's a huge one. And then who will you need to become? Like what's that next level of of you and what are some of the things, what are some personal development things? What are some goals around that that, that you want to, to pursue as well? And then this is a more strategic one, but what will you use to keep track of your progress and goals?
[00:41:54] Chaniel Clark: Ah,
[00:41:54] Danielle Wiebe: so calendars, systems, task manage. All of that. [00:42:00] And that is something that, you know, we teach inside of Action Takers Club, but I'll just share like a little, um, snippet of what I love is creating a workflow. So whether you're gonna do that, you can do it with pen, paper. I love doing it virtually because then it doesn't go anywhere. You know, Pen & paper, I'm gonna lose it. It's gonna like, it's gonna go on my purse and then I'm gonna leave it somewhere.
[00:42:23] Chaniel Clark: Right.
[00:42:23] Danielle Wiebe: And so I love you using Asana personally, but you can use anything you want or you can use a Google calendar. Um, the reason I like Asana is because you can schedule tasks for yourself, and once you start building your team too, you can schedule tasks for your team and you can assign tasks to yourself. You can give them a due date and you can have that task, so you can also have subtasks for that task, if that makes sense.
[00:42:48] Chaniel Clark: Yeah.
[00:42:49] Danielle Wiebe: And you can create different due dates for those, and you can always reschedule them. So if something comes up, not happen in that day, that's fine. You reschedule it. The amount of things I've rescheduled, don't have any shame around it. [00:43:00] But that's really what helps me keep myself accountable and also reminds me of things. I love using it too as a way to remind myself to follow up with people or connect with people.
[00:43:11] Chaniel Clark: Mm-hmm.
[00:43:11] Danielle Wiebe: is, I'll put that in my Asana and I'll schedule it for myself for a month from now, or two months from now, to reconnect with that person or to follow up from that email that we had. You know, if someone says, Oh, follow up with me in the new year, how many times does someone say that?
[00:43:26] And we're like, Okay, great. Yes, I will. And then we totally forget.
[00:43:29] Chaniel Clark: Right.
[00:43:29] Danielle Wiebe: It just never happens. So that's what I use that for. But you can use anything you want. There's lots of tools out there, so just find something that works for you. But that's what I would say. That's my last tip for you. And my last kind of idea is that create something where you can actually keep track of your progress and keep track of some of those things that, that you're gonna do.
[00:43:51] Yeah, that's, that's it. So how, how are we feeling right now? I know we did that really quickly. We tried to, we tried to cram it into [00:44:00] an hour, so it, it went by really fast. And if we had a little bit more time, we would kind of go into the more. But I would love to hear like, how are you feeling right now? Like, What are some of the things that are coming to mind for you?
[00:44:12] Chaniel Clark: Yeah, I am, I'm feeling really inspired. I think the, the brainstorming, being able to get out, you know, out of my mind, like, just out of my thoughts. Like the things that I want to do, being able to speak about my vision, being able to start to plan strategically about okay, what, you know, your goals, how to accomplish those goals. All of those things, I think, make me feel less overwhelmed.
[00:44:37] Danielle Wiebe: Mm-hmm.
[00:44:38] Chaniel Clark: and I am feeling inspired. I'm, after we get off of our call, I'm gonna start jotting down some things and setting some time aside for myself to start to actually add deadlines for some of these goals that need to be accomplished. And so I really appreciate this time.
[00:44:56] I think it's so, it's been so good. I feel good. I feel energized, I [00:45:00] feel inspired. And I think one of the things I think you, you, you said like, I want to, I have to see this as like project managing and so, um, Yeah, I'm so excited. I'm excited for people to learn more about she nurtures. I'm excited for the personal growth for myself in being able to do this. And I think, like I said, ultimately for me, failure is not an option because if I, I think about all of the women that need this.
[00:45:29] Danielle Wiebe: Yes.
[00:45:29] Chaniel Clark: If my and mom had this type of support where someone could have given her advice or showed her or helped shape, you know, some of her thinking as she was growing up as a young girl. I think, you know, I think that her life would've just, I think she would've made different choices and did different things, and therefore, again, her daughters would've been able to have more of a, uh, more insight and the leg up on life.
[00:45:55] And so it's so important and so I'm very excited about moving forward [00:46:00] and working on this podcast and learning from you and um, and everyone else.
[00:46:04] Danielle Wiebe: Oh,
[00:46:05] Chaniel Clark: thank you so much.
[00:46:05] Danielle Wiebe: So good. So good. I'm super excited for you and keep me in the loop and keep me updated on everything that you're doing because I'm really excited about everything you're doing. I think it's amazing and I would love to have you on the podcast, sharing your story of how you launched your podcast.
[00:46:27] Chaniel Clark: Yes.
[00:46:29] Danielle Wiebe: Right? And so that'd be just, Okay, how can I create a successful story for myself?
[00:46:37] Chaniel Clark: Yeah.
[00:46:37] Danielle Wiebe: And how can I, you know, launch my podcast and create this momentum with it, and then share my story of things that I've learned that will help others as well. And I love your mission behind your brand. I think it's amazing. I think it's so incredible and I think you're right. So many women need it. And so let that be your motivation on on [00:47:00] days where you're feeling
[00:47:01] Chaniel Clark: Yeah
[00:47:02] Danielle Wiebe: down or you're doubting yourself. And that's what has really helped me is knowing, Okay, I'm doubting myself right now, and I, you know, maybe I'm having this insecurity of, is what I have to say, even valuable? Does, does anyone care? It's like, well, it's not about me. So if there's one other person that needs to hear this,
[00:47:21] Chaniel Clark: yeah.
[00:47:21] Danielle Wiebe: If there's one other person that's gonna be encouraged by what I have to share, or what my guest has to share on the podcast, whatever that is, then it's worth it, right?
[00:47:30] Chaniel Clark: Yeah.
[00:47:30] Danielle Wiebe: And so having that perspective, and I think you already have that perspective, so it's, it's awesome. I'm very excited for you and I can't wait to see how everything goes.
[00:47:41] Chaniel Clark: I'm so excited. I, I'm, I am, I'm really pumped. I'm really excited about the impact that this podcast, that this, this organization is gonna have. And so thank you so much for helping catapult me into, Into this, you know, into the next phase. So really excited.
[00:47:59] Of [00:48:00] course. Of course. You're welcome.
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